Why does barometric pressure differ from measured pressure?

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The discussion revolves around the discrepancies between reported barometric pressure values from weather sites and actual measurements taken with a pressure transducer in Denver, Colorado. Participants explore the implications of altitude on pressure readings and the methods used by weather services to report pressure data.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes a consistent difference between the local pressure reported by weather sites (around 30.33 inches of Hg) and their own measurements (11.85 psi) using a certified pressure transducer.
  • Another participant suggests that weather sites may calculate pressure based on large-scale weather patterns without accounting for local elevation effects in Denver.
  • It is mentioned that weather map charts typically use sea level pressure equivalents to facilitate the drawing of isobars, which represent weather systems.
  • One participant believes that scaling values to sea level equivalents allows for consistent interpretation of high and low pressure across different altitudes.
  • Concerns are raised about the lack of clarity in how local weather conditions are presented, particularly regarding the adjustment of pressure readings to account for altitude.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the methods used for reporting pressure, with some agreeing on the use of sea level equivalents while others question the adequacy of this approach in representing local conditions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best practices for reporting pressure in mountainous regions.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential limitations in the reporting of pressure data, including the dependence on sea level equivalents and the lack of adjustment for local elevation in weather reports.

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I live in Denver CO, and I have come across a mystery having to do with barometric pressure. If you go look at any weather site, like:

http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=denver+co

You will see the local pressure (at the time of this writing) is listed as 30.33 inches of Hg, which is 14.89 psi. However, I have a brand new certified absolute pressure transducer that shows the local pressure is 11.85 psi. Also, if you look at how pressure is supposed to vary with altitude, such as at this site:

http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/air-altitude-pressure-d_462.html

You can verify that the predicted pressure at Denver (5300 ft elevation) is around 11.9 psi. This is much closer to the pressure I measured with the pressure transducer. The difference is small and can probably be explained away due to local variations, temperature and humidity effects, etc.

But if you think this is a single anomaly, think again. I first noticed this in July when the weather was hot. I have observed this over and over the past few months in different conditions. The weather pages consistently give values around 29-31 inHg, which is far higher than I have ever measured with my PT.

So my question is, why the difference?
 
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The only explanation that comes to my mind is that those general weather sides may calculate their numbers by large scale weather pattern and don't take the special height situation in Denver into account. Would be interesting to know whether you can find similar discrepancies for let's say Santa Fe or Salt Lake.
 
For purposes of drawing weather map charts local elevation is ignored.
The pressure shown is the equivalent sea level pressure.
The reason for that is because we can then draw isobars on the map which indicate weather systems.
If actual pressure at elevation were used, mountainous areas would appear to have a permanent low pressure systems with the associated poor weather conditions.
If actual pressure were used instead of sea level equivalent then a major storm at sea level would look like a trivial weather feature when compared to a mountain range.
 
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I believe for the purposes of weather reports they usually scale the values to their sea level "equivalents" so the same barometric pressure means high or low independent of altitude. A quick Google search ought to clear that up.
 
rootone said:
For purposes of drawing weather map charts local elevation is ignored.
The pressure shown is the equivalent sea level pressure.
This makes sense. However, if you display local weather conditions as on the side spamanon has mentioned, in this case for Denver including the height given, it's a poor service. And they didn't even explained their data - at least at first sight. Just the number and unit. Funny is that I get the pressure in hPa, snow in cm and temperature in °C. If they can transform the units it would be no big deal to adjust the pressure to the heigth (also given in m!).
 
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