Why Does Higgs Production Cross Section Calculation Differ from Expected Values?

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of the Higgs production cross section, specifically addressing discrepancies between calculated values and expected results as presented in a referenced paper. Participants explore theoretical aspects, computational methods, and the implications of various parameters in the calculations.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant calculates the Higgs production cross section using Mathematica and finds that their value for "σ₀" is of order 10^-10 pb, which is significantly lower than expected values around 50 pb.
  • Another participant suggests that the calculated value of 10^-7 pb is too small and indicates a potential issue with the calculations, emphasizing the need for clarity in the presented calculations.
  • A participant provides a formula for σ₀ and notes that it yields a value of 10^-10 pb, questioning the accuracy of the calculations and suggesting that a dimensionful factor may have been suppressed in the original equations.
  • Further discussion highlights the importance of the Fermi coupling constant and strong coupling constant in determining the correct dimensions for the cross-section calculations.
  • One participant mentions that with the corrected σ₀ value of order 10^-5 pb, they are still uncertain about the calculation of σ(pp -> h) and whether additional factors should be applied based on integrated luminosity.
  • Another participant clarifies that integrated luminosity is relevant for determining the total number of Higgs bosons produced but questions its direct relevance to the cross-section itself.
  • A participant seeks clarification on the expression for the total cross section as given in the referenced paper, specifically regarding the parton distribution function used in their calculations.

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Participants express differing views on the calculations and the relevance of certain parameters, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing interpretations of the equations and their implications.

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Participants note potential missing factors and dimension issues in the calculations, highlighting the complexity of the equations involved and the need for careful consideration of the parameters used.

Safinaz
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Hi all,

I try to calculate the Higgs production cross section by Mathematica using
for example the formula in [arXiv:hep-ph/0503172].

The problem comes when I calculate " σ_0 " it's of order 10^-10 pb at mh = 125 GeV ( 3.57), then when I convolute with the parton distribution function to get the pp -> H production according to equ.( 3.58) it gives me of order 10^-7 pb ! while in the plot (3.18) pp -> H is around 50 pb.

I don't know what is the problem I have, any help please.Safinaz
 
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It is hard to impossible to tell what is wrong if you do not show your calculations.

10-7 pb is too small.
 
for σ0:

σ0[mh_] : = ( ( c^2)/ (256 *Pi)) *(1/2)^2* ( ((Yht)/(mT))* At [mh])^2
where
c = 0.117, Yht= mt/v, v= 174 and At is the fermion loop function.

This gives 10^-10 pb .

For σ(pp -> h) I used:

LogPlot[ {σ0[mh]*(q)* NIntegrate[(1/x)* pdf[iset, iparton, x, 14000] * pdf[iset, iparton, (q/x), 14000], {x, q, 1}], {mh, 100, 200}]

With

iset = 1; (* CTEQ5M*)
iparton = 0;
q := mh^2/14000^2;
 
Safinaz said:
I try to calculate the Higgs production cross section by Mathematica...
The problem comes when I calculate " σ_0 " it's of order 10^-10 pb
This is way too small also.

What you gave doesn't correspond very well to the equation Eq (3.57) But after all, finding a missing factor of so many orders of magnitude should not require the use of Mathematica!

If you take a look at the equation as given, the Fermi coupling constant Gμ from Eq (1.76) is 10-5 GeV-2, the strong coupling constant from Eq (1.78) is αs = 0.1, and there is a numerical factor of about 1000 in the denominator. The form factor A is order of magnitude 1.

Apparently a dimensionful factor has been suppressed. To get something with the right dimensions, i.e. a cross-section, we need to reintroduce (ħc)2 where ħc = 200 MeV-f. So we have

10-5 GeV-2 (200 MeV-f)2 (0.1)2/1000 ≈ 10-10 f2 = 10-36 cm2 = 10-12 b = 1 pb
 
Thanks for your reply,

So the problem is only the dimensions. Now σ0[125] of order 10^-5 pb .. but what about
σ(pp -> h) , at page 115 it's mentioned that ## \int L dt = 100 pb^{-1} ## so that should
we multiply by some factor here because I still have σ(pp -> h) [100] = 0.006.

s.
 
I don't see how the integrated luminosity at hadron colliders would be relevant for the cross-section. If you care about the total number of Higgs bosons produced, multiply the cross-section with the integrated luminosity. With 1pb (see post 4) and 100/pb this gives 1pb*100/pb = 100 Higgs bosons.
 
So what about equ.(3.58) in [arXiv:hep-ph/0503172], they gave the total cross section by multiplying
##\sigma0## by ## \tau_h ( dL/d\tau_h)## I don't understand this expression.

They define ## dL/d\tau_h## as the parton distribution function and this is what I used in my calculation
to get(pp->h) as in post 3 after getting ##\sigma0## (pb).

S
 
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