Why Does Light Have a Maximum Speed?

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The discussion revolves around the question of why light has a finite speed, specifically addressing the nature of this speed and its implications in physics. Participants explore concepts from electromagnetic theory, special relativity, and the behavior of light in different media.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question why light has a maximum speed, suggesting a need for clarification on whether light can be slowed down or if its speed is inherent.
  • One participant explains that in electromagnetic theory, light is described as waves of oscillating electric and magnetic fields, with a constant speed (c) in a vacuum, which is a fundamental property of these waves.
  • Another participant notes that while light travels at different speeds in various media, the speed of light in a vacuum is a universal constant, and photons, as massless particles, must travel at c according to special relativity.
  • There is a discussion about whether a vacuum could be considered a medium that affects light's speed, with some arguing that the speed of light is not influenced by external factors in a vacuum.
  • Participants highlight that the concept of a maximum speed for the propagation of information is built into the structure of spacetime and arises from the formulation of physical theories.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on whether light's speed can be influenced by external factors or is a fixed property. While some agree on the fundamental nature of light's speed as described by theory, others raise questions about the implications of different media on light's propagation.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the nature of light's speed in different media and the implications of electromagnetic theory versus quantum perspectives on photons. The discussion does not reach a consensus on these points.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying physics, particularly in the areas of electromagnetism, special relativity, and the behavior of light in various contexts.

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Why does light or anything have a finite speed? In E=mc2, it gives the constant of the speed of light but I don't understand why light has a maximum speed. Is there something that slows down light?
 
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It's not that c is light's maximum speed. It is that c is its only speed. The simplest theory of what light is -- electromagnetic theory -- describes light as a wave consisting of oscillating electric and magnetic fields. This theory shows directly that c is the speed at which those waves propagate (in a vacuum).

The result that nothing with mass can reach c comes from Special Relativity (SR). To get SR, we postulate that the laws of physics must be the same for all inertial observers. From this we conclude that there must be a universal maximum speed for the propagation of information, otherwise it would be possible to violate causality (effects could precede causes) and there goes the logical foundation for everything. It just so happens that this max speed is the speed of light, but we would come to the same conclusion from the same starting assumptions in a universe without light. It's built into the structure of spacetime.
 
I thought that light travels different speeds depending on what medium that it is in. Is it possible light goes a set speed because a vacuum is just another medium with things that slow light down? or is it just a random speed that light or whatever energy moves at?
 
bluegold said:
I thought that light travels different speeds depending on what medium that it is in.

Yes, electromagnetic waves travel at different speeds in different media. This arises naturally from electromagnetic theory. Another (quantum) way of looking at light, however, is as photons -- particles that have wavelike properties*. Now, photons *always* travel at c, and the explanation for why light is slowed down in materials is that although each individual photon travels at c, photons are constantly being destroyed and recreated during their interactions with matter. So, the overall progress of the light through the medium is slowed down.

*note: all particles have wavelike properties, not just photons.

bluegold said:
Is it possible light goes a set speed because a vacuum is just another medium with things that slow light down?

No, they don't travel at c because "something" in a vacuum is preventing them from moving any faster. They travel at c because that is a fundamental property of electromagnetic waves (as prescribed by the theory). Electromagnetic waves travel at c in a vacuum. Or, if you want to look at it from the photon picture, photons are massless particles, and special relativity restricts massless particles from moving at any speed other than c (they can neither move slower nor faster).

bluegold said:
or is it just a random speed that light or whatever energy moves at?

Yes and no. Yes, that is just the speed at which light travels. No, it is not "random" in the sense of being arbitrary. It is predicted by theory and holds up in experiment.

I think you might be missing a fundamental point that I tried to make before, which is that the idea of a maximum possible speed for the propagation of information (and, as it turns out, particles) arises naturally in the formulation of physical theories.
 
Thank you very much, this explanation helps me greatly.
 

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