Why Does the Integral of a Complex Exponential Over Its Period Equal Zero?

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The discussion revolves around proving that the integral of a complex exponential over an integer number of periods equals zero. Participants explore various approaches to this proof, including substitution methods and considerations of specific cases.

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  • Homework-related
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about how to approach the proof, suggesting that the areas under the curve from 0 to 1/2 T0 and from 1/2 T0 to T0 cancel each other out.
  • Another participant proposes starting with a substitution to eliminate the variable T0 and considers the case where k=1, suggesting that the integral can be split into two parts that are equal in magnitude but opposite in sign.
  • A different participant raises a concern about simplifying the problem by setting T0=1, comparing it to an incorrect equivalence between addition and multiplication.
  • Several participants present mathematical expressions related to the integral and trigonometric identities, questioning whether their derivations are sufficient to demonstrate the result.
  • One participant acknowledges that the proof may be more complicated than necessary and suggests that the integral can be computed directly, while also addressing the generality of T0 in the proof.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best approach to the proof, with multiple competing views on how to simplify or compute the integral. Some express confidence in their methods, while others remain uncertain about the implications of their reasoning.

Contextual Notes

Participants' discussions reveal limitations in their assumptions about the integral's properties and the implications of setting specific values for T0. There is also a dependence on the definitions of the variables involved, which remains unresolved.

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Homework Statement


Prove that the integral of a complex exponential over an integer number of periods is zero.


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\int_{0}^{T_{0}}e^{j (2\pi /T_{0}) kt} dt = 0 , k = integer

The Attempt at a Solution



I am never sure how to work a proof. In this case, i can see that it would be true but not sure how you go about "proving" it. That the area from 0 to 1/2 T0 would zero out the area from 1/2 T0 to T0. Can someone point me to a good example on how to work this type of proof? or help me through this one?

\frac{1}{e^{j(2\pi /T_{0})k}}e^{j(2\pi /T_{0})kt} \mid ^{0}_{T_{0}}
 
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I would start with substitution to get rid of the variable T0, and consider the case k=1 first.
That the area from 0 to 1/2 T0 would zero out the area from 1/2 T0 to T0.
You can split the integral in two parts and show that they are equal apart from their sign.
 
So would you just say consider T0 = 1, but i would worry that would be like saying that since 2+2 = 4 and 2*2 = 4 therefor addition and multiplication are the same...
 
\frac{e^{j(2\pi /T_{0})kT_{0}}}{j(2\pi/T_{0})k}- \frac{e^0}{j(2\pi/T_{0})k}

e^j\theta = cos\theta +j sin\theta

\frac{cos(2\pi k)+j sin(2\pi k)}{j(2\pi /T_{0})k} - \frac{1}{j(2\pi /T_{0})k}cos(2\pi k) = 1

j sin(2\pi k) = 0

\frac{1}{j(2\pi /T_{0})k} - \frac{1}{j(2\pi /T_{0})k} = 0

Is this sufficient?
 
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\frac{e^{j(2\pi /T_{0})kT_{0}}}{j(2\pi/T_{0})k}- \frac{e^0}{j(2\pi/T_{0})k}

e^j\theta = cos\theta +j sin\theta

\frac{cos(2\pi k)+j sin(2\pi k)}{j(2\pi /T_{0})k} - \frac{1}{j(2\pi /T_{0})k}cos(2\pi k) = 1

j sin(2\pi k) = 0

\frac{1}{j(2\pi /T_{0})k} - \frac{1}{j(2\pi /T_{0})k} = 0

Is this sufficient?

Yes, that's exactly what you want. Though it is true that ##e^{j 2 \pi k}=1## for k an integer, right? Probably no need to go through the sines and cosines.
 
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Hmm right, my idea was more complicated than necessary. You can simply compute the integral.

So would you just say consider T0 = 1, but i would worry that would be like saying that since 2+2 = 4 and 2*2 = 4 therefor addition and multiplication are the same...
No, it is like saying T0/T0=1 for all real T0 (apart from 0). A sound mathematical proof that T0 does not influence the result.
 

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