Why don't electrons jump between the turns of a coil?

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SUMMARY

Electrons in a coil follow the turns due to their path of least resistance, primarily influenced by the wire's high conductivity compared to the insulation. The phenomenon of arcing between turns can occur under high voltage potentials, which can break down the insulation. The discussion highlights that electrons do not jump between turns unless sufficient energy is present to overcome the insulating barrier. Key equations like the Fowler-Nordheim equation and the Richardson-Dushman equation illustrate the conditions necessary for high-field emission and thermionic emission, respectively.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of electrical conductivity and resistivity
  • Familiarity with the concepts of voltage potential and electron volt
  • Knowledge of the Fowler-Nordheim and Richardson-Dushman equations
  • Basic principles of inductance and magnetic fields
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  • Research the Fowler-Nordheim equation and its applications in high-field emission
  • Study the Richardson-Dushman equation for thermionic emission in various materials
  • Explore the principles of inductance and its effects on coil design
  • Investigate the impact of insulation materials on electrical conductivity and arcing
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Electrical engineers, physicists, and students studying electromagnetism and electrical circuits will benefit from this discussion, particularly those interested in coil design and the behavior of electrons in conductive materials.

  • #31
I think what sophie said is that lightning itself is DC , we have known that for quite some time now but the very burst itself the arc through the air creates some extra components with it that may resonate after the initial strike has run short of its potential, and those extra components are more like high frequency AC.

not a brilliant but still an analogy would be that take any other DC source , a battery or more closely a capacitor charged to high potential and it matters through what medium you discharge the cap.the discharge itself could create AC for brief amount of time.
it matters if you discharge the cap with a short thick screwdriver or with a few turns of conducting path wrapped in a coil fashion , it could even be coreless still a very high potential would be shorted through it , and some resonant EM field would exist for some time around the coil.yet the source was and still is DC.
 
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  • #32
See what a waste of time classification can be?
DC from a battery and the conditions that we use in 'DC calculations' are all predicated on the steady state - or the 'near enough' steady state to allow good predictions. A lightning strike does not satisfy those conditions. It is brief, non linear and generates significant RF to tell me that there is 'AC' there. AC is not just 50 or 60 Hz; if there is an alternating component at 200kHz then I would call that AC. Would you call it DC? What would Mr Fourier have to say about it? I don't need to give references to him, do I?
 
  • #33
A lightning bolt doesn't neatly align with the concept of either DC or AC. Nor need it.

The question of why electrons follow the tedious circuitous path in a coil has been adequately answered. Thanks to all contributors.

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