Why don't gravitational waves get distorted?

In summary: It is believed that these types of interactions are insignificant compared to Schwarzschild backscatter.
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In BLACK HOLES AND TIME WARPS Kip Thorne writes:

...Light, X-rays and radio waves (produced far outside the hole's horizon)...can be strongly distorted by propagating through intervening matter, they can bring us but little information about the (black) hole...The ripples of curvature (gravitational waves) [from the black hole], by contrast, are not at all distorted by propagating through intervening matter...and as a consequence they can bring us detailed information...and an unequivocal black hole signature...

So why is it that gravitational waves alone are "not at all distorted"??

For example, don't they combine [maybe even non linearly] with other gravitational waves?...they must interact with matter, otherwise we wouldn't be able to detect them...

thanks.
 
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He is saying that because gravitational wave solutions to the linearized EFE's have very low amplitudes. Their interactions with matter are extremely small in magnitude, for example on the order of 10^-21 for certain interactions.
 
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Gravitational waves can't be "distorted" in the same sense as light, radio and other waves because they are "distortions" of the underlying spacetime. Gravity waves are propagating changes in spacetime, they basically are spacetime.
 
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Gravitational waves most certainly can be distorted, the same way as light. WannabeNewton is correct in that the interaction is too small to be significant.
 
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Are you talking about self-gravity distortion? Otherwise I'm not sure we're talking about the same kind of distortion.
 
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High frequency gravitational waves follow null geodesics, which can produce the effects usually associated with light such as focusing and caustic surfaces.

However what we're talking about here is the lower frequency waves emitted by a collapsing object. And the idea that such waves emerge undistorted is incorrect. As gravitational waves climb out of the surrounding Schwarzschild field they will backscatter, forming a prolonged 'tail' that persists even after the source has stopped.
 
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Ah, I see. Thank you!
 
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I think Kip Thorne was talking about low frequency gravitational waves...

Bill_K:
Gravitational waves most certainly can be distorted, the same way as light. WannabeNewton is correct in that the interaction is too small to be significant...

High frequency gravitational waves follow null geodesics, which can produce the effects usually associated with light such as focusing and caustic surfaces.

However what we're talking about here is the lower frequency waves emitted by a collapsing object...

Some distortion makes sure makes sense...never heard of any wave that wouldn't be.

So are we saying that lower frequency gravitational waves are distorted less than high, and that distortion of lower frequency waves is "insignificant"...??

When I posted I was particularly thinking about gravitational waves interacting...say from multiple star collapses to black holes across the universe...and gravitational waves from dual pairs of objects...and from rotating massive black holes at galactic centers...Is it believed these types of interactions are insignificant compared to Schwarzschild backscatter??
 

1. Why do gravitational waves not get distorted?

Gravitational waves do not get distorted because they are a type of energy that travels through space-time in the form of ripples. These ripples do not interact with matter in the same way that other forms of energy, such as light or sound, do. Therefore, gravitational waves remain undistorted as they travel through the universe.

2. How do gravitational waves remain undistorted?

Gravitational waves are produced by the acceleration of massive objects, such as black holes or neutron stars. These waves are created in the fabric of space-time itself and do not require a medium to travel through. This means that they are not affected by any intervening matter and can travel long distances without getting distorted.

3. What properties of gravitational waves allow them to remain undistorted?

Gravitational waves have the property of being transverse waves, meaning that they oscillate perpendicular to the direction of their propagation. This allows them to maintain their shape and amplitude as they travel through space-time, without getting distorted by external forces.

4. Do gravitational waves ever get distorted?

While gravitational waves do not get distorted by matter, they can be affected by the curvature of space-time caused by massive objects. This can cause a change in the direction or amplitude of the wave, but it is not considered distortion in the traditional sense. Additionally, gravitational waves can interact with each other, causing interference patterns that may change their shape.

5. How do scientists measure undistorted gravitational waves?

Scientists use highly sensitive detectors, such as the Laser Interferometer Gravitational-Wave Observatory (LIGO), to measure the tiny distortions in space-time caused by gravitational waves. These detectors use lasers and mirrors to detect the stretching and squeezing of space-time as the wave passes through, allowing scientists to accurately measure the properties of the wave.

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