Why flow of electrons through a conductor produce magnetic field

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the reasons why the flow of electrons through a conductor produces a magnetic field. Participants explore various explanations, including the role of electron spin, charge flow, and the implications of relativity, while seeking clarity on these concepts.

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  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the relationship between electron spin and the production of a magnetic field, suggesting that it may be due to charge flow or relativity.
  • Another participant asserts that the flow of charge produces a magnetic field as a fundamental postulate of Ampere's law, referencing Maxwell's equations.
  • A different viewpoint emphasizes the relativistic effects on electrons, suggesting that their velocity leads to length contraction and increased charge density, which contributes to magnetic fields.
  • Some participants express confusion regarding the role of electron spin, with one stating that their textbook claims spin affects the magnetic field produced by flowing electrons.
  • One participant challenges the assertion that electron spin is responsible for the magnetic field, arguing that the flow of electrons through a conductor is the primary cause.
  • Another participant requests clarification on the textbook's claims about spin and its relation to magnetic fields, seeking a direct quotation for context.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the role of electron spin in producing magnetic fields, with some asserting it is not a factor while others reference their textbooks as supporting the idea. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing views on the relationship between spin, charge flow, and relativity.

Contextual Notes

Some claims rely on specific interpretations of textbooks and may depend on the definitions of terms like "spin" and "magnetic field." The discussion reflects varying levels of understanding and interpretation of fundamental physics concepts.

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i want to know why flow of electron produces magnetic field
sombody says this is because of spin of electron or because of flow of charge or relativity of flowing electron.
anybody please clear my confusion?
 
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It has nothing to do with the spin of the electron. You can take it in two ways. Both are accepted because they fit in a mathematically consistent theory that describes what we observe.

1) It is a fundamental postulate (Ampere's law, one of Maxwell's equations) that the flow of charge produces a magnetic field. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ampère's_circuital_law

2) Ampere's law can be understood as a requirement for consistency between electrostatics and special relativity. A very good explanation of this point of view is found in Purcell's and Ohanian's textbooks, as well as Daniel Schroeder's http://physics.weber.edu/schroeder/mrr/MRRtalk.html.

Edit: Although the electron spin is not responsible for Ampere's law, there is a magnetic field associated with the electron spin, which can be seen in phenomena such as electron spin resonance: https://project-physicsteaching.web...h/experiments/electron-spin-resonance-qrg.pdf (I didn't read it carefully, but it seems like a non-crackpot link although it adheres to some theory called quantom physics!)
 
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akashpandey said:
sombody says this is because of spin of electron

Who says this?
 
spin effect the magnetic field produced due flow of electron.
i my textbook this thing is written.
thats why i am confused.
why there is relation between relativity and magnetic field produce due to flow of electron
 
akashpandey said:
spin effect the magnetic field produced due flow of electron.
i my textbook this thing is written.
thats why i am confused.
why there is relation between relativity and magnetic field produce due to flow of electron

A movie is like a 1000 words*fps*time.
 
akashpandey said:
spin effect the magnetic field produced due flow of electron.

That not true. Your textbook is unlikely to have said that because its false. If it did you can tell your teacher it needs to be corrected.

Spin is a quantum effect but heuristically its viewed like a spinning point charge which from Maxwell's equations has a magnetic field. That the electrons spin has nothing to do with their flow through a conductor which also produces a magnetic field.

Thanks
Bill
 
akashpandey said:
spin effect the magnetic field produced due flow of electron.

Is the book written in English? If it is, can you give us an exact quotation from it?
 

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