Why is 100% efficient thermal insulator impossible?

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The discussion centers on the impossibility of achieving a perfect thermal insulator, with a focus on the concept of stopping entropy. It highlights that while a vacuum can eliminate conduction and convection, it cannot prevent radiation, making it an imperfect insulator. The notion of stopping entropy is likened to stopping time, reinforcing its impossibility. Participants emphasize that while high-efficiency insulators can be created, none can achieve 100% efficiency due to the limitations of materials and physical laws. Ultimately, the conversation concludes that a perfect vacuum, while theoretically significant, does not equate to a perfect insulator because it cannot stop radiation.
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Somebody told me this and I have yet to figure out even if the statement is true or not.
 
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Because if it could be done, you could stop entropy. Which you can't.

Even if you could stop conduction of heat, how would you stop a body from radiating heat?
 
If u can stop entropy its lik saying u cud stop time.SO i guess its not possible
 
anantchowdhary said:
If u can stop entropy its lik saying u cud stop time.SO i guess its not possible

Translation: If you can stop entropy it's like saying you could stop time, so I guess it's not possible.
 
Stop entropy? What does that mean?
linux kid said:
Why is 100% efficient thermal insulator impossible?

Somebody told me this and I have yet to figure out even if the statement is true or not.
If the question was, is there such a thing as a perfect insulator (i.e., has zero thermal conductivity), then the answer is "yes, a vacuum". Of course, you can't make a true vacuum, nor does a vacuum prevent radiation.
 
I like to look at such questions backwards: how could you make a perfect insulator? There are 3 types of heat transfer: conduction, convection, and radiation...

As Gokul said, a vacuum will stop conduction and convection completely, but we can't make a perfect vacuum and even if you could, you'd have to support the structure with something. So you can't completely eliminate either conduction or convection in a device (though you can eliminate conduction between objects that aren't touching. But you can get either well above 99%.

Stopping radiation is much more difficult than stopping either conduction or convection because it requires a perfect mirror that is perfect at all frequencies of radiation. And though you can get mirrors at in exess of 99% reflectance, the frequency range is limited.
 
Gokul43201 said:
then the answer is "yes, a vacuum". Of course, you can't make a true vacuum, nor does a vacuum prevent radiation.

Since a vacuum doesn't prevent radiation, how does that make it a perfect insulator?
 
It doesn't because it does not prevent readiation as gokul said.

But this perfect vacuum must exist a place farther away than light has reached since bing bang? Because if no radiation or mass have reached the point, nothing can be there.
 
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