Why Is My UA741 Op Amp Voltage Follower Not Outputting Correctly?

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The discussion revolves around the issues encountered when using a TI uA741CPE4 op amp as a voltage follower. Participants explore the op amp's output behavior in relation to its power supply and input voltage levels, focusing on the theoretical and practical aspects of its operation.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes their setup with the uA741 op amp, noting that the output voltage does not match the expected behavior based on the input voltage.
  • Another participant points out that the 741 op-amp is not a rail-to-rail device, suggesting that the supply voltage must be higher than the expected output voltage for proper operation.
  • A further contribution specifies that to achieve an output swing from 0V to 3.3V, power supplies of approximately -2V and +5.33V would be necessary.
  • Another participant emphasizes that a 3.3V supply is likely insufficient for the op amp to function effectively, referencing the output voltage range specified in the datasheet.
  • It is mentioned that while the op amp may perform better than typical values, designing circuits based on such performance is not advisable.
  • A suggestion is made that a minimum of a 5V supply is needed for useful operation, with a 9V battery being proposed as a more typical low voltage supply for such circuits.

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Participants generally agree on the limitations of the uA741 op amp regarding its output swing and power supply requirements, but there is no consensus on the best approach to resolve the original issue presented.

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Limitations include the dependence on specific power supply voltages and the inherent characteristics of the uA741 op amp, which may not meet the expectations for output voltage swing in the described application.

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I am using a TI uA741CPE4 op amp for a voltage follower, but it's not working correctly.

Here is how I have it connected:

OUT connected to IN-
Input voltage is connected to IN+
Vcc- is connected to ground
Vcc+ is connected to 3.3V

An input voltage of 0 - 1.75v gives a constant output voltage of 1.83v.
From there, the output voltage goes up, but it only goes up to about 3.15v with an input voltage of 3.3v.

I have tried two band new chips, but got the same result with each.
 
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A 741 op-amp is not a rail to rail op-amp. This means that you need the supply voltage to be several volts higher than the highest expected output voltage.
 
In other words, if you want the output to swing from 0V to 3.33V, you'll need power supplies of roughly -2V and +5.33V.
 
Also, a 3.3V siupply is probably too low to be useful.

The datasheet for a 714C gives the output voltage range as +/-13V typical, with a power supply of +/- 15V. That suggests the output will only swing to 2V inside the power supply voltage,

You seem to be getting a bit more than that. Chips often perform better than the "typical" values on the datasheet, but it's not a good idea to design circuits that rely on that happening.

So you need a minimum of a 5V supply to do anything useful, i.e. if the power rails are 0V and 5V, the output can swing between 2V and 3V.

A 9V battery (i.e. +/- 4.5V) would be a more typical "low voltage" supply for a 714 circuit design.
 
1968: Release of the μA741
 

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