Why is plasma frequency in ev and not hz

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The discussion centers on the use of electronvolts (eV) as a unit for plasma frequency and relaxation frequency, rather than hertz (Hz). Participants explore the relationships between plasma frequency, relaxation frequency, and Debye length, as well as the implications of using eV in the context of electromagnetic properties of materials.

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  • One participant questions why plasma frequency and relaxation frequency are expressed in eV, noting that eV is a measure of energy, not frequency.
  • Another participant explains that eV can represent electromagnetic frequency, referencing the photoelectric effect equation and suggesting that using eV can simplify calculations.
  • The second participant discusses the practical benefits of expressing frequency in eV when studying electromagnetic properties of materials, as it relates to energy differences between bands.
  • The plasma frequency is described as a characteristic frequency for plasma systems, where charge carriers behave like oscillators under an external electric field.
  • It is noted that light with frequency below the plasma frequency is mostly reflected, while light above it is transmitted, as charge carriers cannot respond quickly enough to screen the electric field.
  • The Debye length is introduced as the distance over which charge carriers screen the electric field to 1/e of its initial value.

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Participants express differing views on the appropriateness of using eV for frequency, with some supporting its use for practical reasons while others question the rationale. The discussion does not reach a consensus on this matter.

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There are unresolved aspects regarding the definitions and relationships between plasma frequency, relaxation frequency, and Debye length, as well as the implications of using different units of measurement.

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Why is the plasma frequency and the relaxation frequency expressed in eV instead of Hz? eV is a measurement of energy, not frequency.

What is the plasma frequency, relaxation requency and Debe length, and how are they all related?

Thanks,

Ninja
 
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eV can also be used as a unit of electromagnetic frequency. Remember the photoelectric effect result:

E=\hbar\omega=hf

Thus, a E/M wave of frequency \omega can just as easily be labeled by it's photon energy. In some cases this is preferred, just because the numbers are easier to work with. For example,

A light wave of frequency, 4X10^14Hz has a photon energy of ~1.65eV. I think most people would agree that the second number is less cumbersome to work with.

Experimentally, it's also useful to express frequency in eV, especially if you are studying electromagnetic properties of materials. Many electronic effects in materials (usually labeled by energy differences between bands, etc.) cause noticeable effects in the frequency spectrum of the materials dielectric constant or index of refraction. Thus, it makes sense to leave frequency in units of eV, if you are looking for such effects.

When given a frequency of light in eV, you can convert back to Hz by dividing by Planck's constant.

The Plasma frequency is a characteristic frequency for plasma systems or a system, like metals, where the charge carriers can be treated as a plasma. Basically, if you treat the electrons in a metal as being SHO oscillators, with the Coulomb force as the restoring force, and drive the electrons with an external E-Field, the resonance frequency you will obtain will be the plasma frequency.

For a metal, light with frequency less than the plasma frequency is mostly reflected. The transmitted light is screened and drops exponentially in strength inside the material. For light above the plasma frequency, the charge carriers cannot respond quickly enough to screen the field, and the light is mostly transmitted.

The Debye length is the characteristic length scale over which charge carriers in a material screen the electric field to 1/e of it's initial value.
 
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that was a great answer.

see if you can answer my question farther down the 'quantum physics' thread list, which involves more of the core of what I'm trying to do.

the thread is:
"using the drude equation to find the dielectric function"

Thanks for the response,

Ninja
 
also, nice avatar.
 

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