Why is the answer for solving cos2x=cosx not 0°+360k°?

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The discussion revolves around solving the equation cos2x = cosx, specifically exploring the reasoning behind the solution provided in a textbook, which differs from the original poster's conclusion. The subject area is trigonometry, focusing on the properties of cosine functions and double angle identities.

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  • The original poster attempts to solve the equation using the double angle identity for cosine and subsequently factors the resulting quadratic equation. Some participants question the necessity of setting both factors equal to 1 and suggest alternative approaches to factoring. Others propose substituting variables to simplify the problem.

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Participants are actively engaging with the problem, exploring different methods of factoring and questioning assumptions about the solutions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the factoring process and the implications of the product of factors equaling zero. The discussion reflects a collaborative effort to clarify misunderstandings without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the correct application of factoring techniques and the interpretation of solutions in the context of trigonometric identities. The original poster expresses uncertainty about their approach, leading to further exploration of the problem.

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ok here's a question i can't figure out why the answer is the way it is.

Solve each equation for all values of x.

1.cos2x=cosx

*First i use the double identity 2cos²x-1 for cos2x and got:
2cos²x-1=cosx

*then i subtracted cosx and got:
2cos²x-cosx-1=0

*then i subtract 1 on both side and got:
2cos²x-cosx=1

*I then factor 2cos²x-cosx and got:
cosx(2cosx-1)=1

*then i set them equal to 1 and got this:

cosx=1
=0°

2cosx-1=1
added one and divided by 2 to get:
cosx=1
=0°


Since it is cosine i set it like this: 0°+360k°

But my book says the correct answer is 0°+120k°

Please someone help me with this.
And i may have more questions on some other double identity problems.
 
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Why do both factors have to equal 1? For example, (-3)*(-1/3) = 1. Note, I'm not saying these numbers are useful for your question, I'm just pointing out other possibilities.

Try factoring your equation before moving 1 to the RHS.

Regards,
George
 
WillyTech said:
ok here's a question i can't figure out why the answer is the way it is.

Solve each equation for all values of x.

1.cos2x=cosx

*First i use the double identity 2cos²x-1 for cos2x and got:
2cos²x-1=cosx

*then i subtracted cosx and got:
2cos²x-cosx-1=0
So far so good. From here, it's just the quadratic equation in cos x, i.e if you substitute t = cos x, your equation will become:
2t2 - t + 1 = 0.
Can you solve for cos x (or t?) from the equation? From there, I think you'll be able to solve for x. Can you go from here? :)
 
George Jones said:
Why do both factors have to equal 1? For example, (-3)*(-1/3) = 1. Note, I'm not saying these numbers are useful for your question, I'm just pointing out other possibilities.

Try factoring your equation before moving 1 to the RHS.

Regards,
George

So that means i mest up somewhere in the factoring? and its not suppose to both equal 1?

Well, i get this after i factor 2cos²x-cosx-1=0 :

cosx(2cos-1)-1=0

I am really stuck on this problem.
 
Factor the trinomial into a product of binomials.

Big hint: substitute y = cosx.

Regards,
George
 
George Jones said:
Factor the trinomial into a product of binomials.

Big hint: substitute y = cosx.

Regards,
George

so it would be: 2y^2-y+1=0

and then would the product of the binomials would be (2y+1)(y-1)?
 
Right, and the product equals zero. What does this tell you?

Regards,
George
 
George Jones said:
Right, and the product equals zero. What does this tell you?

Regards,
George

Oh yeah! i see now!

it will come out to cosx=-1/2 and 1 which is "120°" and "0°" which is why it has to be 0°+120k°.

It was just some simple wrong factoring that got me on the wrong track.
Thanks!
 
Good!

Sorry VietDao29 - I didn't see your post.

Regards,
George
 
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Just to illustrate why the terms of your earlier product don't have to equal 1: (1/3)*3 = 1 but neither is 1.
 

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