Why is the speed of light different when traveling in different materials?

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The discussion revolves around the phenomenon of light traveling at different speeds in various materials compared to its speed in a vacuum. Participants explore concepts such as the refractive index, the interaction of light with matter, and the implications of these interactions on the speed of light. The scope includes theoretical explanations and conceptual clarifications related to optics and electromagnetic theory.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that light moves slower in materials like water or air and questions the reasons behind this, mentioning the refractive index.
  • Another participant asserts that while the speed of light is constant, the time taken for light to travel through materials may suggest it travels a longer distance.
  • A participant emphasizes that the speed of light is always c in a vacuum and discusses the absorption and reemission of photons as a cause for delays in materials.
  • Another contribution explains that the interaction of light with the oscillating electrons in a medium leads to a new field pattern, resulting in a smaller apparent phase velocity.
  • One participant expresses confusion regarding the FAQ explanation of refractive index, suggesting that it may involve both electronic response and lattice contributions, and seeks clarification on this point.
  • A technical explanation describes how light as an electromagnetic wave interacts with dielectric materials, creating temporary dipoles that affect the wave's propagation speed.
  • A later reply introduces the concept of different velocities in dispersive media, distinguishing between phase velocity, group velocity, and signal velocity, and discusses the implications of quantum mechanics on the nature of photons.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of light's speed in materials, with some emphasizing the constancy of c in a vacuum and others exploring the complexities of light's interaction with matter. There is no consensus on the explanations for the refractive index or the mechanisms involved in the slowing of light in various media.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various models and theories, including the Drude model and Lorentz model, but the discussion remains open-ended regarding the contributions of different factors to the refractive index and the nature of light propagation in materials.

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In my physics class, we learned that light moves slower when traveling in different materials like water or air. However, it is the fastest in a vacuum. I was wondering why this happens. I read something about a refraction index in the different materials. For example, water has a refraction index of 1.3 or something. So, the speed of light in water is technically c/1.333...;the problem is, I still don't understand WHY this happens. Any help would be really nice. Thx!
 
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Isn't the speed of light a constant. Having said that if the light takes longer to pass through say glass then it must be traveling further.
 
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The speed of light is always C. Due to the absorption and reemission of the photon as it passes through the atoms of the material, there is a slight delay in transfer time through the material.

Edit: It is always C in a vacuum...
 
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Only the speed of light in vacuum is constant.

If a wave propagates in a medium it drives the electrons to oscillate around the core. Due to this movement of charges new waves are excited at each atom site.
All the waves taken by themselves oscillate with the vacuum speed of light, however when the scattered waves interfere with the incoming wave they produce a new field pattern which also is a plane wave, but with a smaller "apparent" phase velocity.

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I just saw the reply about the FAQ entry. The FAQ answer actually is quite confusing to me, because it attributes the refractive index to a lattice response and explains something that sounds to me like Raman scattering. While this exists, it is more of a special phenomenon. Mostly the refractive index is treated as an electronic response (some keywords: drude model, lorentz model, atomic dipoles, clausius-mossotti etc). For example, the explanation that i posted can be found (together with the math) in the Feynman lectures.
Maybe i misinterpreted the FAQ answer, or maybe there is also some lattice contribution to the refractive index (not raman scattering), which i did not know about.
It would be nice if this could be clarified.
 
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Classically, light is an electromagnetic wave. When the oscillating electric field goes through a dielectric material, the electric field causes the charges in the material to move, which creates a temporary dipole moment which opposes the electric field. The electric field is generated by a changing magnetic field, but because of the material, the electric field is weaker. Because of conservation of energy, the energy of polarization of the material contains the rest of the energy, and this energy is released back into the wave. But it slows down the propagation of the wave, as the light wave has to push the charges in the material around as it passes.

For dispersive media, "speed of light" is ambiguous. Do you mean the phase velocity, the group velocity, or the signal velocity of light? The phase and group velocities can exceed c, but the signal velocity is always <= c.

Quantum mechanically, the photon becomes a quantum of oscillation in the electromagnetic field superposed with oscillation in the charges in the material. A "particle" in quantum mechanics is allowed to be built out of different pieces, like Frankenstein's monster. I don't know if this means that the photon picks up a rest mass. It's beyond my ken.
 

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