Why is the speed of light in a vacuum considered the ultimate limit?

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The discussion revolves around the nature of the speed of light in a vacuum, exploring why it is considered the ultimate limit in physics. Participants examine the implications of this speed in relation to general relativity, the properties of photons, and the interaction of light with matter.

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  • One participant questions the significance of the speed of light in a vacuum, suggesting it may relate to the properties of photons or space itself.
  • Another participant asserts that the speed of light is a property of space-time and that many physical effects propagate at this speed, not just light.
  • There are inquiries about whether the speed of light is a property of matter being slow or light being fast, and the origins of this phenomenon are questioned.
  • Concerns are raised regarding the mass of photons and their interaction with black holes, indicating confusion about the nature of light and gravity.

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Participants express differing views on the nature of the speed of light and its implications, indicating that multiple competing perspectives remain without consensus.

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Some statements reflect uncertainty about the properties of photons and their interactions with matter and gravity, highlighting a lack of clarity in definitions and assumptions.

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Dont want to read all of this, then just read the last paragraph. If you still mixed up then read all of it.



Why does einsteins theory of general relativity deal with c, the speed of light in a vacuum, the speed of light can take on many different forms when traveling through mass. But what's so spechial about the speed of light in a vacuum. Would not this mean that the empty space (called a vacuum) as something to deal about the proportys of the photon? All I know is that when you put light with open space it's the fastest thing in the world.

Heres what I think about a photon. Normaly when you have a matter, you have more energy and potential for speed. But when you put light into the mix it will reflect of matter to get us colors just like it does not want to be put in with energy/matter. When light is put with matter it slows down when matter contains all the energy. So the electrons and neutrons and protons seem to reject light with there energy. Or sufficate is so that is will slow down.

So here's my question to you science huggers, because our constant c, the speed of light is written all over I am mathematics (which we use to relate and calculate life) would the speed of light in a vacuum have to deal with the proporty of the photon? Or maby the proporty of space? I have been thinking about for some while but.

(Thanks)
 
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It's a property of space-time.

Many physical effects are propagated at c, not just light.

Also, general relativity deals with c as well.

Think of it like this: c is a number that tells you how nature balances time against space. When someone asks you how far you are from someplace they often answer with a time instead of a distance. It's like saying that New York is 2 hours from Los Angeles in an SR-71. Except nature is a lot faster.
 
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Is it a proprty of matter to be slow or a proporty of light to be fast. I know its nature all of this is in the natrue of science, but why, where does it come and why is it there? Whay kind of science takes place that says light shold be the fastest? When we come to the photon I have even heard that it has to mass. Think about it, has no mass and then light can get intefeared with a black hole?
 
13habelbrea said:
Is it a proprty of matter to be slow or a proporty of light to be fast. I know its nature all of this is in the natrue of science, but why, where does it come and why is it there? Whay kind of science takes place that says light shold be the fastest? When we come to the photon I have even heard that it has to mass. Think about it, has no mass and then light can get intefeared with a black hole?

Please start by reading the FAQ thread in the General Physics forum.

Zz.
 

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