Why is there a d\theta/dt at the end of the derivative?

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The discussion revolves around the differentiation of a function involving polar coordinates, specifically the relationship between the variables r and θ as functions of time t. The original poster is questioning the presence of the term dθ/dt in the derivative of the cosine function within the context of applying the product rule and chain rule in calculus.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to understand why the term dθ/dt appears in the derivative, expressing confusion about the application of the product rule and the chain rule. Some participants clarify that the chain rule is necessary when differentiating with respect to time, leading to the inclusion of dθ/dt.

Discussion Status

The discussion is progressing with participants providing clarifications regarding the use of the chain rule in differentiation. The original poster acknowledges the explanation but expresses some disappointment in not having recognized it earlier.

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There is an emphasis on understanding the application of differentiation rules in the context of functions of multiple variables, specifically in polar coordinates. The original poster's inquiry reflects a common point of confusion in calculus regarding the relationship between differentials and their respective variables.

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Homework Statement



r = r(t)
\theta = \theta(t)

x = r cos(\theta)

dx/dt =dr/dt cos(\theta) - r sin(\theta) d\theta/dt

The Attempt at a Solution



Where does the d\theta/dt come from at the end of the derivative? I know I'm using product rule here because r and theta are both functions of t. But, the derivative of cos is just -sin. Why would there be a d\theta/dt at the end?
 
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TheDoorsOfMe said:
. But, the derivative of cos is just -sin. Why would there be a d\theta/dt at the end?

No, \frac{d}{d\theta}\cos\theta=-\sin\theta but \frac{d}{dt}\cos\theta=\left(\frac{d}{d\theta}\cos\theta\right)\left(\frac{d\theta}{dt}\right) via the chain rule. :wink:
 
TheDoorsOfMe said:

Homework Statement



r = r(t)
\theta = \theta(t)

x = r cos(\theta)

dx/dt =dr/dt cos(\theta) - r sin(\theta) d\theta/dt





The Attempt at a Solution



Where does the d\theta/dt come from at the end of the derivative? I know I'm using product rule here because r and theta are both functions of t. But, the derivative of cos is just -sin. Why would there be a d\theta/dt at the end?
Chain rule.
d/dt(cos(theta)) = -sin(theta)*d(theta)/dt
 
oooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh! man I'm kinda disappointed I didn't see that one : ( oh well. Thank very much guys!
 

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