Why isn't light induced by an antenna

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around the interaction between light, as an electromagnetic wave, and antennas designed for radio frequencies. Participants explore why light does not induce disturbances in antenna signals, considering the differences in wavelength and frequency between light and radio waves.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that light is an electromagnetic wave but questions why it does not affect antenna signals.
  • Another participant explains that antennas are designed for specific wavelengths in the radio spectrum, which differ significantly from the wavelengths of light, making any potential effect of light negligible.
  • A suggestion is made to design an antenna with a resonant frequency close to that of light, highlighting the vast difference in frequency between radio waves and light.
  • A participant mentions that parabolic antennas can reflect light and discusses the implications of sunlight interference on satellite communication, particularly during certain times of the year.
  • Several participants express surprise at the lack of disturbances in radio signals when light is focused on antennas, indicating a lack of prior knowledge on the topic.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the fundamental differences in frequency and wavelength between light and radio waves, but there is no consensus on the implications of these differences for antenna design and performance. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the extent of light's potential effects on antennas.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the specific frequency ranges of light and radio waves, but the discussion does not delve into the mathematical details or assumptions underlying these comparisons. The implications of sunlight interference on satellite communication are noted but not fully explored.

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I am sorry please delete this post if it has been already asked

Light is an electromagnetic wave right?

i haven't have ever heard of light distorting or causing disturbances in antenna signal,why is it so isn't it also an electromagnetic wave?
 
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antennae are made to function at a specific wavelength (or frequency) of electromagnetic radiation, in the radio spectrum of EM radiation we're dealing with a wavelength between 1 millimeter to even hundreds of millimeters. The signal is propogated through the antenna by the oscillations of electrons at the corresponding frequency/phase/amplitude etc.

Light doesn't have any effect because it's effect would be tiny in comparison with what radio waves oscillate at. Light has a wavelength between 400-700nm give or take. Corresponding frequency range is just under 10^15 Hz.

The frequency range for radio waves is between 50MHz to 1000MHz (~10^8 to 10^9Hz). On the order of 7 orders of magnitude difference.

Light might have an effect on the oscillations of the electrons, but in the grand scheme of things it's miniscule in comparison to the effect radio waves will have.
 
thunkit said:
i haven't have ever heard of light distorting or causing disturbances in antenna signal

Try to design an antenna whose resonant frequency is evenly remotely close to the frequency of light, namely a few hundred terahertz. :smile:

(WiFi antennas are merely a few gigahertz. You need to go about 100,000 times higher...)
 
That depends upon what sort of antenna you had in mind. All parabolic antennas are excellent solar reflectors. For that reason the larger ones for satellite communication are usually painted with flat (non gloss) paint, and care is taken at the times of year when the sun happens to cross the geostationary arc and enters the look angle of the antenna. The subreflectors that are at the beam focus are usually made of fiberglass to resist the heat from the focused sunlight. A flashlight uses a parabolic reflector to focus the light and can be thought of as a “light antenna”.
 
thanks a lot,i didnt know about that
i jus thought i never heard any disturbance in a radio or something when light is focussed on its antennas,lol
 
thunkit said:
thanks a lot,i didnt know about that
i jus thought i never heard any disturbance in a radio or something when light is focussed on its antennas,lol

The previous posts explained why that does not happen; the antenna is electrically too long for it to have resonance with the very short wavelength of light.
The parabolic dish antenna will reflect the light waves quite efficiently and it can pose a real problem for the satellite Earth stations at certain times of year (during the spring and fall equinoxes). During those times the received signal is disturbed, and can be completely washed out by the solar interference.

Here is a link that has a bit more information about that:
http://engineering.learfield.com/sun-outages/
 

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