Why isn't Thorium used for reactor fuel rods?

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The discussion revolves around the viability of thorium as an alternative reactor fuel compared to uranium and plutonium. Participants explore various aspects including its fissile properties, historical usage, and the challenges associated with its implementation in nuclear reactors.

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  • Some participants note that thorium is not fissile and requires conversion to U-233, which introduces complexities and proliferation risks.
  • Others mention that thorium has been tested in reactors like Indian Point 1 and Shippingport, indicating historical interest and experimentation.
  • Concerns are raised about thorium's lower burnup per ton compared to uranium, affecting its neutron economy and overall reactivity.
  • Participants discuss the potential of molten salt reactors (MSRs) for thorium use, highlighting advantages such as higher operating temperatures and reduced water dependency.
  • Some argue that while U-233 can be weaponized, its handling is complicated by intense gamma radiation, which poses detection and safety challenges.
  • There are claims that the economic feasibility of thorium fuel cycles remains a barrier to widespread adoption, with some suggesting it may not be worth the effort at this time.

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Participants express a range of views on thorium's viability, with no clear consensus on its advantages or disadvantages. Disagreements exist regarding its safety, economic feasibility, and technical challenges.

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Participants highlight various limitations, including the need for large quantities of U-235 in breeding reactors, the complexities of U-233 production, and the economic implications of transitioning to thorium fuel cycles.

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Is THORIUM a viable alternative Reactor Fuel? Seems like URANIUM and PLUTONIUM are to easily weaponized.
 
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Thorium itself isn't fissible. There were some breeding reactor concepts which produced U-233 from Th-232, but they required large quantities of U-235 and therefore also contained a large proliferation risk.
 
ComputerJockey2017 said:
Is THORIUM a viable alternative Reactor Fuel?
https://www.gen-4.org/gif/upload/docs/application/pdf/2013-10/gif_egthoriumpaperfinal.pdfhttps://www.gen-4.org/gif/jcms/c_9359/msr
Folks have been thinking about thorium fuel cycles for the last 6 decades. The idea gets revived periodically, and nations such as India, China and others with substantial thorium deposits have active programs.

Thorium fuel was tested an Indian Point 1 starting around 1962, and on a limited basis in the Shippingport (LWBR) reactor in the late 1970s through early 1980s.
Fuel Summary Report: Shippingport Light Water Breeder Reactor
INEEL/EXT-98-00799 https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML0923/ML092310709.pdf

MIT study (1999) - http://ltbridge.com/assets/15.pdf

http://www.barc.gov.in/reactor/tfc.html
 
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In a light water reactor, thorium has less burnup per ton of fuel than uranium by a significant amount. It has a parasitic effect on its neutron economy which essentially wastes reactivity compared to uranium/plutonium.
 
Thorium is "fertile" not fissile, and needs to be converted to U233 before it can be used, in which process U232 is also produced, in small quantities, but enough to wreak havoc on weapons use as it is a hard gamma emitter, detectable from far away.
The premise of Thorium use is in Molten Salt Reactors, either once-thru, or a breeder where fertile material is converted, and byproducts are removed in-line, some for use in other applications. The increased temps in MSRs allows for use in industrial processes, and/or extremely reduced size CO2 turbines, desalination of sea water, or use air to dissipate waste heat, allowing arid areas for sites.
Avoiding water with its weak covalent H / O2 bond is a bonus, both from a stability, efficiency, and safety point t of view.
 
Unobtanium said:
Thorium is "fertile" not fissile, and needs to be converted to U233 before it can be used, in which process U232 is also produced, in small quantities, but enough to wreak havoc on weapons use as it is a hard gamma emitter, detectable from far away.
How is this a problem?
U-233 has a small critical mass, comparable to Pu-239. And lower radioactivity.
And lower spontaneous fission rate. An U-233 bomb would actually seem relatively easy to build.
 
Quite a necromancy, the original question is already three years old...

Thorium was used in commercial reactors already. Indian Point I. has many to say about the economical consequences of using thorium being a lone wolf in a conservative industry, and also there were several other 'live' tests with mixed-thorium fuels: it happens a few times in every decade.

I think the most correct answer for the original question would be: it is not used because it does not worth the effort yet.
 
snorkack said:
How is this a problem?
U-233 has a small critical mass, comparable to Pu-239. And lower radioactivity.
And lower spontaneous fission rate. An U-233 bomb would actually seem relatively easy to build.
Intense gamma rays make handling the material much more difficult and it makes the activities much easier to detect. Even if you keep humans out of the process it means you have to make everything more radiation tolerant. You also have to worry about the gamma rays producing neutrons and so on.
 
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