Why this triple integral is not null?

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The discussion centers on the evaluation of a triple integral involving the sine function, where one participant argues that the integral should be zero due to the odd nature of sin(x). However, others clarify that the integration limits from 0 to pi do not create a symmetric interval around zero, thus the integral does not yield zero. They emphasize the importance of distinguishing between signed and unsigned areas, noting that the area under sin(x) from 0 to pi is positive. The conversation concludes with an acknowledgment of this distinction, leading to a better understanding of the integral's value. Overall, the integral represents a positive volume despite the odd function's properties.
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Homework Statement
look at the image
Relevant Equations
integrating impair function over symmetric region
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here is my integral
Compute the volume of the solid
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and here is the solution (that I don't agree with)
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So as you can see they started integrating sinx from 0 to pi and then multiplied everything by two! for me sin(x) is an odd function and it's integral should be 0 over symmetric region!
thank you in advance!
 
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I am confused. Definite integration is a technique to find the area under the curve. Sin(x) is completely above the x-axis between (0, Pi). So the value isn't 0.
 
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By definition, volume is positive and all its pieces have positive volume. So the fact that sin() is odd forces you to consider the negative part as an additional positive volume.
 
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Amaelle said:
Homework Statement:: look at the image
Relevant Equations:: integrating impair function over symmetric region

So as you can see they started integrating sinx from 0 to pi and then multiplied everything by two! for me sin(x) is an odd function and it's integral should be 0 over symmetric region!
thank you in advance!
sin(x) is odd relative to zero. Your integration domain is not symmetric relative to zero. Hence, your argument does not apply.
 
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Amaelle said:
So as you can see they started integrating sinx from 0 to pi and then multiplied everything by two! for me sin(x) is an odd function and it's integral should be 0 over symmetric region!
thank you in advance!
The area of (say) a circle, centred somewhere on the x-axis, is not zero - even though half the area is above the x-axis and half is below.

Beware of the difference between signed and unsigned areas!
 
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Steve4Physics said:
The area of (say) a circle, centred somewhere on the x-axis, is not zero - even though half the area is above the x-axis and half is below.

Beware of the difference between signed and unsigned areas!
thank you I got it!
 
Steve4Physics said:
The area of (say) a circle, centred somewhere on the x-axis, is not zero - even though half the area is above the x-axis and half is below.

Beware of the difference between signed and unsigned areas!
Orodruin said:
sin(x) is odd relative to zero. Your integration domain is not symmetric relative to zero. Hence, your argument does not apply.
thank you very much! I understood the difference now!
 
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