Why work done by a force is a scalar product

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The discussion centers on the nature of work done by a force, specifically why it is represented as a dot product between the force applied and the displacement caused. Participants explore the implications of this representation in various contexts, including deceleration and the role of multiple forces acting on an object.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the dot product is used because it captures the component of force that acts in the direction of motion.
  • Others argue that work is a scalar quantity, which aligns with the definition of energy.
  • A participant questions the relevance of the cause of displacement in defining work, stating that multiple forces can act on an object, each contributing to the work done.
  • There is a discussion about the work done when decelerating an object, with some noting that the force may act opposite to the displacement, resulting in negative work.
  • One participant presents a mathematical framework involving Newton's equations of motion and the work-action theorem, suggesting that it provides insights into energy conservation and the role of conservative forces.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the implications of the dot product in the context of work, particularly regarding scenarios involving deceleration and the contributions of multiple forces. No consensus is reached on these points.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the complexity of defining work in scenarios with multiple forces and varying directions, as well as the mathematical relationships involved in energy conservation. Some assumptions about the nature of forces and motion remain unaddressed.

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Why work done by a force was taken as dot product between force applied and displacement caused?
 
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Because 1. We're interested in the component of force that points in the same direction as the motion, and 2. It's scalar because energy is a scalar quantity (and work is a measure of energy).
 
axmls said:
Because 1. We're interested in the component of force that points in the same direction as the motion

What about the work involved in decelerating an object?
 
saurabhjain said:
Why work done by a force was taken as dot product between force applied and displacement caused?
The force doesn't have to be the cause of the displacement. The cause is irrelevant for the definition of work.
 
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A.T. said:
The force doesn't have to be the cause of the displacement. The cause is irrelevant for the definition of work.
Yes. In fact, there could be many forces acting on the body, and the body could be moving along a very complicated path because of all the forces. Each force does work, which is calculated using the standard dot product definition of work. In this process, each force could be doing positive, zero or negative work. The algebraic sum of the works done by all the forces, which we can call the net work, can also be calculated by first finding the net force, and then calculating the work by that net force.
 
axmls said:
We're interested in the component of force that points in the same direction as the motion
I'm sure you meant the component of force parallel to the displacement. The force could very well be opposite to the displacement, which was Drakkith's point here:
Drakkith said:
What about the work involved in decelerating an object?
 
Again, if there is one force that is reducing the speed of an object (I don't use the word deceleration), then the direction of the force is opposite to the velocity, and the work done turns out to be negative. The definition of work is still the same, it is the dot product of force and displacement.
 
The reason for taking this specific functional is that it is useful. As the most simple example take a single point particle moving in some external force field. Then Newton's equation of motion reads
$$m \dot{\vec{v}}=\vec{F}.$$
Then you can multiply this with ##\vec{v}## (scalar product), and you immediately see that the left-hand side is a total time derivative:
$$m \vec{v} \cdot \dot{\vec{v}}=\frac{m}{2} \mathrm{d}_t (\vec{v}^2)=\mathrm{d}_t T=\vec{v} \cdot \vec{F}$$
with the kinetic energy
$$T=\frac{m}{2} \vec{v}^2.$$
Integrating this over a time interval you get
$$T_2-T_1=\int_{t_1}^{t_2} \mathrm{d} t \vec{v} \cdot \vec{F}.$$
This is known as the work-action theorem.

As it stands, it's not so useful, because you need to know the solution of the equation of motion to evaluate the integral. But very often forces in Newtonian mechanics are derivable as the gradient of a scalar field, i.e., a potential:
$$\vec{F}(\vec{x})=-\vec{\nabla} V(\vec{x}).$$
Then the integrand becomes also a total time derivative:
$$\vec{v} \cdot \vec{F}=\dot{\vec{x}} \cdot \vec{F}=-\dot{\vec{x}} \cdot \vec{\nabla} V=-\mathrm{d}_t V.$$
Then the right-hand side of the work-action theorem becomes
$$T_2-T_1=-(V_2-V_1).$$
You don't need to know the trajectory of the particle anymore but only the positions and velocities of the particle at the initial and final time ##t_1## and ##t_2## of the motion. Writing the total energy as
$$E=T+V,$$
the above equation is nothing else than the energy-conservation law
$$E_2=E_1.$$
That's why forces which are the gradient of a time-independent scalar field are called "conservative", because they lead to energy conservation.
 

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