WiFi Signal Strength and Computer Orientation

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between WiFi signal strength and the orientation of computer antennas. Participants explore the factors influencing signal strength, including antenna design and environmental effects, within the context of radio communication theory and practical applications.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions why WiFi signal strength appears unaffected by the orientation of the antenna, despite the expectation that voltage induced would depend on the direction and polarization of radio waves.
  • Some participants assert that signal strength does depend on orientation, but the impact is minor compared to other factors such as walls and reflections.
  • Another participant notes that there can be a significant difference in signal strength based on antenna orientation, citing a difference of around 25-30 dB between horizontal and vertical polarization.
  • There is mention of the potential for multiple antennas in computers or routers to optimize signal capture, suggesting that more complex antenna designs may mitigate orientation effects.
  • One participant highlights that IEEE 802.11n includes features for using multiple antennas to improve signal strength.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the extent to which antenna orientation affects signal strength. While some acknowledge that orientation does matter, others emphasize that the effect is relatively small in practical scenarios. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific impact of antenna design and environmental factors.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various antenna designs and their implications for signal strength, but the discussion does not clarify the assumptions or conditions under which these claims hold true. The role of environmental factors and the specifics of antenna technology remain points of contention.

Natanijel
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Hello everybody :)

This is my first post! I have a mystery about radio communication that I was wondering about for a long time:

If I have understood correctly, most computers have a single WiFi antenna in the shape of a rod, which is placed in a particular orientation. My question is this: why does the WiFi signal strength seem to be unaffected by the orientation of the antenna even though the voltage induced will depend on the direction and polarisation of the WiFi radio waves? For example, my laptop (as far as I know) has a single antenna in the plane of the keyboard, and if I rotate my computer through many angles, my signal strength is unaltered.

Could it be that there are multiple (maybe 3) radio receivers that are positioned perpendicular to each other for optimum radio wave capture? Or maybe the router has 3 perpendicular transmitters?

Thanks a lot for your help!
Nat :)
 
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Signal strength does depend on the orientation, but the difference is small compared to other issues like walls.
 
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mfb said:
Signal strength does depend on the orientation, but the difference is small compared to other issues like walls.
Thanks for the reply :)
 
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mfb said:
Signal strength does depend on the orientation, but the difference is small compared to other issues like walls.

there is a huge difference in signal strength dependent on antenna orientation, the difference between horizontal and vertical polarisation is around 25 - 30 dB

Over the short distances that WiFi is used, several 10's of metres, it is as mfb said, not too much of an issue due to all the reflections of other objects
Over longer distances kilometres ++ it makes a major difference and matched antenna orientation is a must

Dave

PS ... nice to see you return after many months with a response :smile:
so many never bother to ever come back with a thanks
hope to see more of you on the Physics Forums :smile:
 
davenn said:
there is a huge difference in signal strength dependent on antenna orientation, the difference between horizontal and vertical polarisation is around 25 - 30 dB
That may be true for some sort of dipole, but I believe there are other more complicated antenna designs available that can get closer to an ideal isotropic radiator, something I would guess computer manufacturers may take advantage of.
 
davenn said:
there is a huge difference in signal strength dependent on antenna orientation, the difference between horizontal and vertical polarisation is around 25 - 30 dB
One of the features of IEEE 802.11n is the optional use of multiple antennas in order to get a better signal strength.
 
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