Will NaOH dissolve aluminum without damaging fiberglass?

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The discussion centers on methods for chemically dissolving a 6063 aluminum tube wrapped in fiberglass/epoxy without damaging the outer shell. Participants suggest using redox reactions with electrodes and aqueous acid solutions to dissolve aluminum while minimizing harm to the fiberglass. Concentrated hydrochloric acid (HCl) and sodium hydroxide (NaOH) are mentioned as potential options, with caution advised regarding their effects on the fiberglass. Testing with small amounts of HCl is recommended to assess damage risk, while NaOH is noted for its effectiveness in dissolving aluminum, particularly after the oxide layer is removed.The conversation also touches on using baking soda (sodium bicarbonate) for a slower, controlled reaction, emphasizing the need for heating the solution. Concerns about safety and the potential for hydrogen gas production during these reactions are raised, particularly regarding the risk of hydrogen embrittlement in steel components nearby. Participants share experiences with various chemicals and methods, highlighting the importance of careful testing and consideration of material compatibility.
  • #31
Borek said:
Compounds like aluminates are notoriously difficult to describe, as their composition - in terms of number of water molecules and OH- attached to the cation - is a matter of multistep equilibrium. Hence you will find different formulas in different sources.
Yes, this is true, but that one I've never seen it before.
 
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  • #32
lightarrow said:
Are you sure Na3AlO3 really exists? Anyway, I don't see any problem in the previous reaction you wrote:

2Al + 2NaOH + 2H2O ---> 2NaAlO2 + 3H2
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Hello, no I am not sure it exists ,but i don't have a problem with 3Na and AlO3
in solution.
The problem with the previous reaction i was having is that it implies that the hydrogens
in the two waters are reduced/released in the product as hydrogen gas.
And I could not see any mechanism for that in the reaction with NaOH and Al.
If you can describe that mechanism I would appreciate it
(please place the pos & negs over the ions)
 
  • #33
morrobay said:
+ ---
Hello, no I am not sure it exists ,but i don't have a problem with 3Na and AlO3
in solution.
The problem with the previous reaction i was having is that it implies that the hydrogens
in the two waters are reduced/released in the product as hydrogen gas.
And I could not see any mechanism for that in the reaction with NaOH and Al.
If you can describe that mechanism I would appreciate it
(please place the pos & negs over the ions)
Al reacts with water when the oxide layer is removed:

2Al + 3H2O --> Al2O3 + 3H2

NaOH dissolves the oxide layer.
 

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