Will Newt Gingrich's 2012 Presidential Candidacy Achieve a Lunar Base?

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Jimmy Snyder said:
These terms are used to shoehorn multidimensional people into a one dimensional specturm.
I stopped paying heed to labels when I started hearing about RINOs, DINOs, LINOs, CINOs and other _INOs.
 
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Looks like no one's been minding the store while Newt's out campaigning:

Gingrich Group Files for Bankruptcy

Hardly makes him look like a capable businessman, IMO.


Edit - a clarification:

According to this article, Gingrinch "ended his involvement" with the think tank in May 2011.
 
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lisab said:
Looks like no one's been minding the store while Newt's out campaigning:

Gingrich Group Files for Bankruptcy

Hardly makes him look like a capable businessman, IMO.
Is business competence important to your decision process/assessment of candidates in general? That is, is demonstrated business competence important to your assessment of Obama, or perhaps other US Senate/House candidates in your area?
 
mheslep said:
Is business competence important to your decision process/assessment of candidates in general? That is, is demonstrated business competence important to your assessment of Obama, or perhaps other US Senate/House candidates in your area?
Has Obama filed bankruptcy?
 
Evo said:
Has Obama filed bankruptcy?
Has he ever run a company that could go bankrupt?
 
I think Evo's point is that a person's competence is not necessarily a factor to consider, but a person's incompetence is a factor to consider, and filing for bankruptcy is a sign of incompetence. Well, that's what it seems she's saying.
 
mheslep said:
Has he ever run a company that could go bankrupt?
He has personal finances.

I would say someone running for Presidency while filing for any type of bankruptcy looks bad.
 
mheslep said:
Is business competence important to your decision process/assessment of candidates in general?
It would really depend on why a candidate is filing for bankruptcy. If it is because of external matters outside of their control that they could not prepare for or cope with then fair enough, it might make them better at understanding the plights of workers in the current economy or it might blind them to reality (i.e. they perceive X to be a big problem because it finished off them when it isn't a big issue). If it is because of incompetence then it shows them to be unsuitable at running large enterprises, in which case why would you want them to run a nation?
 
I think it's a wash. Lincoln went bankrupt before he became president. On the other hand Benedict Arnold went bankrupt and it ruined his reputation.
 
Newt is planning on playing the spoiler, evidently, saying that he will stay in the race until Romney has 1,144 uncontested delegates. I can't imagine what he's thinking. Would a serial philanderer do well in a brokered convention? And how many Republican women would vote for him, opening up the possibility of a Callista Gingrich FLOTUS? He is delusional, in my opinion.

http://news.yahoo.com/newt-gingrich-says-hes-until-romney-reaches-1-002842306--abc-news-politics.html
 
Why do people care so much about the FLOTUS anyway? She has no real power, does she?
 
Char. Limit said:
Why do people care so much about the FLOTUS anyway? She has no real power, does she?
Nope. No real power, legally, but a bully pulpit from which to tout her favorite causes.
 
Char. Limit said:
Why do people care so much about the FLOTUS anyway? She has no real power, does she?

Same reason Americans were so obsessed with Princess Diana.

We may be a democracy, but we're still fascinated with royal families.
 
Char. Limit said:
Why do people care so much about the FLOTUS anyway? She has no real power, does she?

I think some people look at the spouse to get an insight to the candidate's character.

Whether that's a fair way to judge character is debatable.
 
lisab said:
I think some people look at the spouse to get an insight to the candidate's character.

Whether that's a fair way to judge character is debatable.

I think most people liked the character of Elizabeth Edwards, John Edward's wife.

I think most people liked the character of Lurleen Wallace, George Wallace's wife.

I think either of those examples would convince people that a candidate's spouse provides little insight into a candidate's character.

(The George Wallace example is even worse than the John Edwards example. He hid Lurleen's cancer from her so she wouldn't drop out of the race for governor, which delayed her treatment until she was beyond treatment.)
 
George Wallace was governor for like 250 years, so obviously a lot of people felt pretty good about his character
 
mheslep said:
(Responding to: Has Barack Obama ever filed for bankruptcy) Has he ever run a company that could go bankrupt?

You sir, are the winner of this debate.

I could not think of any other way to end it so parsimoniously.
 
Char. Limit said:
Why do people care so much about the FLOTUS anyway? She has no real power, does she?

And how about the POPOTUS?
 
BobG said:
I think most people liked the character of Elizabeth Edwards, John Edward's wife.

I think most people liked the character of Lurleen Wallace, George Wallace's wife.

I think either of those examples would convince people that a candidate's spouse provides little insight into a candidate's character.

(The George Wallace example is even worse than the John Edwards example. He hid Lurleen's cancer from her so she wouldn't drop out of the race for governor, which delayed her treatment until she was beyond treatment.)
great examples
 
Gingrich has anounced he will be dropping out.

http://news.yahoo.com/gingrich-drop-republican-presidential-race-cnn-142624770.html
 
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