Will the cart make it through the sand pile and at what speed will it exit?

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The problem involves a 380 g cart rolling along a track and interacting with a pile of sand, with a focus on the forces acting on the cart and its kinetic energy. Participants are examining whether the cart will pass through the sand pile and at what speed it will exit.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between work and kinetic energy, with some attempting to calculate the initial kinetic energy and the work done on the cart. Questions are raised about the interpretation of the graph representing net force and how it affects the cart's motion.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts of work and kinetic energy, with participants providing calculations and questioning the reasoning behind the cart's ability to traverse the sand pile. Some participants have offered calculations for kinetic energy and work done, while others seek clarification on the underlying principles.

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Participants are working within the constraints of a homework assignment, which may limit the information available and the assumptions they can make about the system. There is a focus on understanding the effects of forces as represented in the provided graph.

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Homework Statement



A 380 g cart is rolling along a straight track with velocity 0.850i m/s at x = 0. A student holds a magnet in front of the cart to temporarily pull forward on it, and then the cart runs into a dusting of sand that turns into a small pile. These effects are represented quantitatively by the graph of the x component of the net force on the cart as a function of position in the figure below.
p7-34.gif

(a) Will the cart roll all the way through the pile of sand? Explain how you can tell.

(b) If so, find the speed at which it exits at x = 7.00 cm. If not, what maximum x coordinate does it reach?

Homework Equations



W= (F)(d)cos(theta)
W= \int F dx
KE= 1/2(m)(v)2


The Attempt at a Solution


I no that it does roll all the way through the pile of sand, but I am not sure why. Can someone please explain why.

To do the second part, what I did was use the kinetic energy formula above, and set the kinetic energy to the work involved. I found the amount of work done by finding the area under the curve of the graph, and adding each of the areas. For the work, i got:
W= \int F dx
W= (2)(1) +1/2(4)(3=)= 8 Ncm --> .08 Nm
Then I set the kinetic energy equal to work
W=KE
.08= .5(.380kg)v2
v= .65 m/s

I know this is wrong, so can someone help me please!
 
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jessedevin said:

Homework Statement



A 380 g cart is rolling along a straight track with velocity 0.850i m/s at x = 0. A student holds a magnet in front of the cart to temporarily pull forward on it, and then the cart runs into a dusting of sand that turns into a small pile. These effects are represented quantitatively by the graph of the x component of the net force on the cart as a function of position in the figure below.
p7-34.gif

(a) Will the cart roll all the way through the pile of sand? Explain how you can tell.

(b) If so, find the speed at which it exits at x = 7.00 cm. If not, what maximum x coordinate does it reach?

Homework Equations



W= (F)(d)cos(theta)
W= \int F dx
KE= 1/2(m)(v)2

The Attempt at a Solution


I no that it does roll all the way through the pile of sand, but I am not sure why. Can someone please explain why.

To do the second part, what I did was use the kinetic energy formula above, and set the kinetic energy to the work involved. I found the amount of work done by finding the area under the curve of the graph, and adding each of the areas. For the work, i got:
W= \int F dx
W= (2)(1) +1/2(4)(3=)= 8 Ncm --> .08 Nm
Then I set the kinetic energy equal to work
W=KE
.08= .5(.380kg)v2
v= .65 m/s

I know this is wrong, so can someone help me please!

What is the initial KE of the cart at x=0?
Then what does each block of area on the graph represent?
Looks to me like each square represents 1*(.01)N-m = .01N-m

As the cart moves then area above the line is added to the Initial KE, area below is subtracted.

The velocity at any point then is given by converting the KE to mv2/2
 
LowlyPion said:
What is the initial KE of the cart at x=0?
Then what does each block of area on the graph represent?
Looks to me like each square represents 1*(.01)N-m = .01N-m

As the cart moves then area above the line is added to the Initial KE, area below is subtracted.

The velocity at any point then is given by converting the KE to mv2/2

Well I first have to ask does the work equal the kinetic energy of the cart?

The initial KE f the cart is:
KE= .5mv2= .5(.38)(.850)2= .137 J
Okay, so now if I use this KE and add it with the KE i got from the graph, which is -.04, I get .097 J.
Then I use the KE formula again, so
.097=.5(.380)v2
v=.715 m/s
So that's right, i think, but can you explain to me why the cart roll all the way through the pile of sand?
 
jessedevin said:
Well I first have to ask does the work equal the kinetic energy of the cart?

The initial KE f the cart is:
KE= .5mv2= .5(.38)(.850)2= .137 J
Okay, so now if I use this KE and add it with the KE i got from the graph, which is -.04, I get .097 J.
Then I use the KE formula again, so
.097=.5(.380)v2
v=.715 m/s
So that's right, i think, but can you explain to me why the cart roll all the way through the pile of sand?

If it gets to the other side and still has kinetic energy left over what else is it going to do?
 
LowlyPion said:
If it gets to the other side and still has kinetic energy left over what else is it going to do?

lol thanks...
 

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