Wolfram alpha giving wrong solutions?(link)

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The discussion revolves around the interpretation of the output from Wolfram Alpha for the function \( f(x) = \frac{x^2}{\ln(x)} \). Participants are examining the domain of the function and the representation of real versus complex solutions, particularly in relation to the behavior of the logarithm function for negative inputs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that Wolfram Alpha shows a real part under zero for the function, which they argue has no real solutions in that domain, stating the domain as \( Dm(f) = ]0;1[U]1;\infty[ \).
  • Another participant presents a mathematical expression involving the logarithm of a negative number, suggesting that it leads to an imaginary solution.
  • Some participants express confusion regarding the output, questioning the interpretation of the logarithm at values less than one and suggesting that a real-valued plot should be selected to avoid confusion with complex solutions.
  • There is a discussion about the representation of real and imaginary parts in the plot, with some participants asserting that the real plot should not extend into negative values, while others clarify that the blue and red parts represent imaginary and real components of the complex solution.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the output from Wolfram Alpha. There are competing views on how the function should be represented and whether the tool is providing correct information regarding the real and complex solutions.

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Participants express uncertainty regarding the behavior of the logarithm function for negative inputs and the implications for the domain of the original function. There are also unresolved questions about how to properly interpret the graphical output from Wolfram Alpha.

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So yeah, Just using wolfram to help draw a nice function, when this happens:

http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=x^2/ln(x)

It shows a real part under zero, when the function given, x^2/ln(x) has no real solution under zero ! It's domain being:

Dm(f) = ]0;11;infinity[

need explanations fast.
 
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$$\ln(-x) = \ln(-1 \times x) = \ln(-1) + \ln(x) = i \pi + \ln(x)$$
 
DrClaude said:
$$\ln(-x) = \ln(-1 \times x) = \ln(-1) + \ln(x) = i \pi + \ln(x)$$

This is the imaginary solution.
 
Jarfi said:
This is the imaginary solution.

I'm confused by the question, but if I understand right what's the of ln(.5), that would give you a negative solution.

If that's not what you mean select real valued plot, and not complex.
 
Student100 said:
I'm confused by the question, but if I understand right what's the of ln(.5), that would give you a negative solution.

If that's not what you mean select real valued plot, and not complex.

It shows both the real and complex plot, however the real plot is drawn what seems incorrectly, it should stop at zero since x is not defined under zero for the real solution.
 
Then you don't understand what it shows - blue and red are imaginary and real parts of the complex solution, you have to switch to real valued plot (select it from the drop down).
 
Jarfi said:
It shows both the real and complex plot, however the real plot is drawn what seems incorrectly, it should stop at zero since x is not defined under zero for the real solution.

It's showing you the real and complex parts of the solution. You need to tab down to real valued plot.
 
Borek said:
Then you don't understand what it shows - blue and red are imaginary and real parts of the complex solution, you have to switch to real valued plot (select it from the drop down).

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks.
 

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