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Homework Statement



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Homework Equations



[tex]y=30\sin(\dfrac{2\pi}{20}t)+270[/tex]

General principal solutions:

[tex]t=\left(\dfrac{\arcsin(\dfrac{1}{3}) 20}{2\pi}\right)+20k, k\in \mathbb{Z}[/tex]

[tex]t=1.08173+20k[/tex]General symmetry solutions:

[tex]t=\left(-\dfrac{(\arcsin(\dfrac{1}{3})-\pi)20}{2\pi}\right)+20k, k\in \mathbb{Z}[/tex]

[tex]t=8.91827+20k[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



What I did was I divived 30 by the difference between these two values of time to find how many such segments I need to accumulate 30 min of 280 degrees:

[tex]\dfrac{30}{8.91827-1.08173}=3.828[/tex]

And then I can find the answer with a bunch of manual work, involving referring to the graph, but I just feel like this is a very ineffective approach.
 
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maxpancho said:
[tex]y=30\sin(\dfrac{2\pi}{20}t)+270[/tex]
... this is the equation for the temperature of the oven right?
Did you try sketching this and drawing a horizontal line for the desired temperature?

So your strategy is to find out how much time T1 in one cycle y>280F, divide the cooking time by T1 to find out how many cycles you need, then multiply that by the period.

What I did was I divived 30 by the difference between these two values of time to find how many such segments I need to accumulate 30 min of 280 degrees:

[tex]\dfrac{30}{8.91827-1.08173}=3.828[/tex]

And then I can find the answer with a bunch of manual work, involving referring to the graph, but I just feel like this is a very ineffective approach.
I think the main thing you have to watch for is the last fraction of a period... that what you wanted to refer to the graph for?

Anyway - that's the approach all right.
 
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Yes, well, I find where the 4th segment ends and then subtract (4-3.828) times segment from it.

[tex]t=8.91827+20*3[/tex] gives me coordinate where 4th segment ends and then I do the following:
[tex]t=(8.91827+20*3)-((4-3.828)*8.91827)[/tex]

So, yes, I just wanted to know if there is a better way to solve it or maybe it is supposed to be such a graph-involving problem. Well, maybe with calculus though, but I'm not yet at that level.
 
Well, actually not that much of "manual" work, just a less algebraic approach.