Word problem using lagrange multiplier

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The problem involves optimizing the cost of raw materials used to produce a fixed quantity of widgets, specifically 1000 widgets, using aluminum, iron, and magnesium. The objective function is the cost associated with these materials, while the constraint relates to the production quantity represented by the equation Q(x,y,z) = xyz.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the formulation of the objective function and constraints, questioning the interpretation of the cost and quantity. There is exploration of using Lagrange multipliers and attempts to isolate variables from the equations derived from the problem.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, attempting to clarify their understanding of the constraints and objective function. Some have provided guidance on the use of Lagrange multipliers, while others are working through the algebraic manipulation required to solve the system of equations.

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There are indications of difficulties with reading and interpreting the problem, which may affect the clarity of the attempts being made. The discussion reflects a mix of correct and incorrect reasoning as participants navigate the problem.

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Homework Statement



The Baraboo, Wisconsin plant of International Widget Co. uses aluminum, iron and magnesium to produce high-quality widgets. The quantity of widgets which may be produced using x tonnes of aluminum, y tonnes of iron and z tonnes of magnesium is Q(x,y,z) = xyz. the cost of raw materials is aluminum, $6 dollars per tonne; iron, $4 per tonne; magnesium, $8 per tonne. How many of each of aluminum, iron, and magnesium should be used to manufacture 1000 widgets at the lowest possible cost

Homework Equations



Q(x,y,z) = xyz is the objective function

is the constraint 6x+4y+8z=1000 ?

The Attempt at a Solution

 
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No, it isn't. How did you come up with that? What is 6x+4y+8z supposed to represent? What does the 1000 represent? Does it make sense to set those two expressions equal to each other?
 
I have issues with reading english.

the 1000 represents the number of widgets

6x,4y,8z would be the cost of each used material.

now I see the issue because 1000 is not a cost, it is a quantity

1000=xyz

so I need to find my objective function

would it not be the cost of each added up?
6x+4y+8z=C(x,y,z) [doesn't make much sense for solving it either though when I try to actually try putting it together]
 
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Yup, you're trying to minimize the cost subject to the constraint of a fixed quantity.
 
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jonroberts74 said:
I have issues with reading english.

the 1000 represents the number of widgets

6x,4y,8z would be the cost of each used material.

now I see the issue because 1000 is not a cost, it is a quantity

1000=xyz

so I need to find my objective function

would it not be the cost of each added up?
6x+4y+8z=C(x,y,z) [doesn't make much sense for solving it either though when I try to actually try putting it together]

Yes, your problem is to minimize 6x+4y+8z, subject to the constraint that xyz = 1000. Implicitly, you also need x,y,z > 0.

The problem has a perfectly respectable solution that can be found via a Lagrange multiplier method, or by using the constraint to solve for z, say, in terms of x and y, then using that in the objective to get an unconstrained problem (although still with implicit constraints x,y > 0).
 
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thank you for the help, word problems are hard with my difficulty reading



F(x,y,z,\lambda) = 6x+4y+8z - \lambda(xyz-1000)

\left\{\begin{array}{cc}6-yz\lambda=0 \\ 4-xz\lambda=0 \\8-xy\lambda=0 \\ -xyz+1000 =0 \end{array}\right.

\lambda = \frac{6}{yz} = \frac{4}{xz} = \frac{8}{xy}

whats the best step to take from here
 
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jonroberts74 said:
thank you for the help, word problems are hard with my difficulty reading



F(x,y,z,\lambda) = 6x+4y+8z - \lambda(xyz-1000)

\left\{\begin{array}{cc}6-yz\lambda=0 \\ 4-xz\lambda=0 \\8-xy\lambda=0 \\ -xyz+1000 =0 \end{array}\right.

\lambda = \frac{6}{yz} = \frac{4}{xz} = \frac{8}{xy}

whats the best step to take from here

If I were able to isolate each equality for lambda to one variable then I could solve the restraint for lambda to get the x,y,z. and it seems if I try solving for any variable it will have two variable in the equality
 
What have you tried? It seems pretty straightforward how to solve this system.
 
I tried solving for lambda first but that doesn't work.

Then tried solving for z, but I didn't have luck. I'll try again this afternoon.
 
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Show your work if you want help. Simply saying what you tried and then saying it didn't work is pretty much useless to us.
 
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I can't show it when I am replying in between classes. That why I said I will do it again this afternoon.
 
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F(x,y,z,\lambda) = 6x+4y+8z - \lambda(xyz-1000)

\left\{\begin{array}{cc}6-yz\lambda=0 \\ 4-xz\lambda=0 \\8-xy\lambda=0 \\ -xyz+1000 =0 \end{array}\right.

\lambda = \frac{6}{yz} = \frac{4}{xz} = \frac{8}{xy}

if I take

6-yz\lambda=0; 4-xz\lambda=0\lambda = \frac{6}{yz} = \frac{4}{zx}

solving for x x=\frac{2y}{3} now using

8-xy\lambda=0;4-xz\lambda=0 \Rightarrow \lambda = \frac{8}{xy}=\frac{4}{xz}

solving for z z=\frac{1y}{2}

now \frac{2y}{3}(y)\frac{1y}{2}=1000\Rightarrow \frac{1y}{3}=1000 \Rightarrow y =3000

x=2000;z=1500
this seems incorrect
 
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##\frac 23 y \times y \times \frac 12 y = \frac 13 y^3##, not ##\frac 13 y##.
 
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vela said:
##\frac 23 y \times y \times \frac 12 y = \frac 13 y^3##, not ##\frac 13 y##.

that's how tried I am. sorry

so \frac{y^3}{3}=1000 \Rightarrow y=\sqrt[3]{1000/3}
 
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Not quite. Try again.
 
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I see what's wrong

y= 10\sqrt[3]{3}
 
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y= 10\sqrt[3]{3}; x = \frac{20\sqrt[3]{3}}{3};z=5\sqrt[3]{3}
 
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Looks good!
 

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