Lagrange Multipliers with Multiple Constraints?

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The discussion revolves around using Lagrange multipliers to find the maximum and minimum values of the function f(x,y,z) = x^2 + 2y^2 + 3z^2 under the constraints x + y + z = 1 and x - y + 2z = 2. Participants are exploring the setup and implications of these equations.

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  • Participants discuss the derivation of equations from the Lagrange multipliers method, specifically the relationships between x, y, z, λ, and μ. There are attempts to substitute these expressions into the constraint equations to solve for the unknowns. Some participants express confusion about the resulting equations and the number of unknowns involved.

Discussion Status

There is ongoing dialogue about the equations derived from the Lagrange multipliers method and how they relate to the constraints. Some participants have provided guidance on how to manipulate the equations, while others are questioning the clarity of their results and the implications of their findings.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a correction in the second constraint equation and discuss the implications of potentially incorrect terms in the function definition. There is also mention of having enough equations to solve for the unknowns, but uncertainty remains about the process to reach a solution.

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Homework Statement



Using Lagrange multipliers, find the max and the min values of f:

f(x,y,z) = x^2 +2y^2+3x^2

Constraints:

x + y + z =1
x - y + 2z = 2

Homework Equations



∇f(x) = λ∇g(x) + μ∇h(x)

The Attempt at a Solution



Using Lagrange multipliers, I obtained the equations:

2x = λ + μ
4y = λ - μ
6z = λ + 2μ

With the constraints, I tried to find values for the unknowns, but I can't solve the system of equations. I don't know where to go from here. Can anyone help put? Any input is appreciated!
 
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AimlessWander said:

Homework Statement



Using Lagrange multipliers, find the max and the min values of f:

f(x,y,z) = x^2 +2y^2+3x^2

Constraints:

x + y + z =1
x - y + 2x = 2


Homework Equations



∇f(x) = λ∇g(x) + μ∇h(x)


The Attempt at a Solution



Using Lagrange multipliers, I obtained the equations:

2x = λ + μ
4y = λ - μ
6z = λ + 2μ

With the constraints, I tried to find values for the unknowns, but I can't solve the system of equations. I don't know where to go from here. Can anyone help put? Any input is appreciated!

Your equations give you x, y and z in terms of λ and μ. Plug these expressions into the two constraint equations to get two equations for the two unknowns λ, μ.
 
Hey, thanks for helping out! Please note the small change in the second constraint equation: it's x -y + 2z = 2. I did exactly that, but it didn't really seem to help solve for the unknowns. By plugging in the expressions obtained into the constraint equations, I got 11λ + 7μ = 12 and 7λ+ 17μ = 24. Solving, I still get an equation with two unknowns.
 
AimlessWander said:
Hey, thanks for helping out! Please note the small change in the second constraint equation: it's x -y + 2z = 2. I did exactly that, but it didn't really seem to help solve for the unknowns. By plugging in the expressions obtained into the constraint equations, I got 11λ + 7μ = 12 and 7λ+ 17μ = 24. Solving, I still get an equation with two unknowns.

I don't understand what you mean. When you solve the two equations you will get two numbers, one for λ and one for μ. If that is not what you get you had better show the details here.

BTW: you wrote f(x,y,z) = x^2 +2y^2+3x^2, but I assume you meant 3z^2 in the last term.
 
Altogether you have 5 equations in 5 unknowns x, y, z, λ, and μ: the two constraint equations, and the three equations you have derived.

There are lots of ways to solve them (some quicker than others) but you certainly have enough equations to get the solution.

You don't need the values of λ and μ to get the max and min values of f, but as Ray Vickson said it's probably easiest to find λ and μ first, and then find x y and z.
 
With 2x= \lambda+ \mu, 2y= \lambda-\mu, and 2z= \lambda+ 2\mu the two constraints become x+ y+ z= (\lambda + \mu)/2+ (\lambda- \mu)/2+ (\lambda+ 2\mu)/2= 1, which reduces to 3\lambda+ 2\mu= 2, and x- y+ 2z= (\lambda+ \mu)/2- (\lambda- \mu)/2+ 2(\lambda+ 2\mu)/2= 2, which reduces to \lambda+ 2\mu= 2.

Solve 3\lambda+ 2\mu= 2 and \lambda+ 3\mu= 2.
 

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