Work out the amount that Arjun paid in rent in 2019

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The discussion revolves around determining the amount Arjun paid in rent in 2019, utilizing linear equations and ratios based on payments made in 2018. The subject area includes algebraic reasoning and problem-solving involving proportions and equations.

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  • Participants explore different methods to set up equations based on the ratios of rent paid by Arjun and Gretal in 2018 and 2019. Some participants suggest using direct linear equations, while others propose a ratio-based approach. There are questions about the clarity of certain methods and the correctness of the equations presented.

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Several participants have shared their equations and reasoning, with some confirming the correctness of the equations. There is an ongoing exploration of different approaches to solve for Arjun's rent in 2019, but no consensus has been reached yet.

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Participants note the presence of multiple unknowns and equations that need to be solved, as well as the relationships between the amounts paid by Arjun and Gretal across the two years. There is also mention of potential confusion regarding the interpretation of the results.

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I am interested in a more direct linear equations approach...to solve, which i know is possible...

A. My initial thinking was along the lines,

let ##x## be the amount that Arjun paid in 2018 and let ##y## be the amount that Gretal paid in 2018 where A was the total amount paid in 2018 ... this gives me the equation,

In 2018,

Arjun paid: ##\dfrac{5}{12} A = x## and Gretal paid: ##\dfrac{7}{12} A = y##. Therefore, my first equation is,

##\dfrac{5}{12} A + \dfrac{7}{12} A= x +y##

I need time to finish up on this...




B. My alternative approach which was more direct is

In 2018,
Arjun : Gretal =##45 : 63##

in 2019,
Arjun : Gretal =##45 : 65##

Therefore,

##63 = x## and ##65 = 290 +x##

##63(290 +x) = 65x##

##18,270 +63 x = 65x##

##18270 = 2x##

##x= $9135##

Therefore in 2019, Arjun paid ##\dfrac{9135}{7}=$1305× 5 = $6525##.

There could be a better approach. Cheers.


This is the ms approach. Not quite clear to me.

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You have four unknowns, one for each person for each year: ##A_8, A_9, G_8, G_9##.
You have four statements, which give you four equations:
##\frac {A_8} {G_8} = \frac 5 7##
##\frac {A_9} {G_9} = \frac 9 {13}##
##A_8=A_9##
##G_9-G_8=290##
Solve the equations.
 
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Hill said:
You have four unknowns, one for each person for each year: ##A_8, A_9, G_8, G_9##.
You have four statements, which give you four equations:
##\frac {A_8} {G_8} = \frac 5 7##
##\frac {A_9} {G_9} = \frac 9 {13}##
##A_8=A_9##
##G_9-G_8=290##
Solve the equations.
Smart 🤓

Hope your equations are correct...will post my working later.

...I can confirm that equations are correct will post working later. Thanks man!
 
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We have

##A_8 = \dfrac{5}{7} G_9 - \dfrac{1450}{7}##

and

##A_8 = \dfrac{9}{13} G_9##


##\left[\dfrac{9}{13} G_9 = \dfrac{5}{7} G_9 - \dfrac{1450}{7}\right]##

##G_9 = \left(\dfrac {1450}{7} × \dfrac {91}{2}\right) = \left(\dfrac{131,950}{14} \right)= 9,425##

##⇒A_8 =\dfrac{(9 × 9,425)}{13} = 6,525##.
 
I get the same ($6525). That's pretty pricey digs!

Edit, oops I was thinking it was 6525 per month. For the whole year that's not so bad, near $550/month.
 
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Your results in Post# 4 look fine.
In this Post, I will show a somewhat more direct way to get to the quantity asked for in the OP, Arjun's rent in 2019. Like you, I will be using @Hill 's variable definitions and set of equations.
Hill said:
You have four unknowns, one for each person for each year: ##A_8, A_9, G_8, G_9##.
You have four statements, which give you four equations:
##\dfrac {A_8} {G_8} = \dfrac 5 7##
##\dfrac {A_9} {G_9} = \dfrac 9 {13}##
##A_8=A_9##
##G_9-G_8=290##
Solve the equations.

Since ##\displaystyle A_8=A_9\, ,## I will choose to use ##\displaystyle A_9## to refer to either.

Use the two ratio equations to express ##\displaystyle G_8 \text{ and } G_9## in terms of ##A_9##.

##\displaystyle \quad G_8=\dfrac 7 5 A_9 \text{ and } G_9=\dfrac {13} 9 A_9 \ ##.

Plugging those into the equation ##G_9-G_8=290## we get the following.

##\displaystyle \quad \dfrac {13} 9 A_9-\dfrac 7 5 A_9 ==290##

Multiply both sides of the equation by ##9\cdot 5## to eliminate fractions.

##\displaystyle \quad (5\cdot 13 - 9\cdot 7 ) A_9 = 9\cdot 5\cdot 290##
 
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SammyS said:
Your results in Post# 4 look fine.
In this Post, I will show a somewhat more direct way to get to the quantity asked for in the OP, Arjun's rent in 2019. Like you, I will be using @Hill 's variable definitions and set of equations.


Since ##\displaystyle A_8=A_9\, ,## I will choose to use ##\displaystyle A_9## to refer to either.

Use the two ratio equations to express ##\displaystyle G_8 \text{ and } G_9## in terms of ##A_9##.

##\displaystyle \quad G_8=\dfrac 7 5 A_9 \text{ and } G_9=\dfrac {13} 9 A_9 \ ##.

Plugging those into the equation ##G_9-G_8=290## we get the following.

##\displaystyle \quad \dfrac {13} 9 A_9-\dfrac 7 5 A_9 ==290##

Multiply both sides of the equation by ##9\cdot 5## to eliminate fractions.

##\displaystyle \quad (5\cdot 13 - 9\cdot 7 ) A_9 = 9\cdot 5\cdot 290##
Aarrgh that's the ms method on my attached post ##1##. Cheers.
 

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