Wormhole Time Machine: As Time Goes On

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the implications of using a wormhole as a time machine, particularly focusing on the effects of relativistic speeds on the passage of time at different mouths of the wormhole. Participants explore how time is perceived and measured at each mouth after establishing a time difference, considering both theoretical scenarios and the effects of motion and gravitational potential differences.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant proposes a scenario where one mouth of the wormhole is moved close to the speed of light, leading to a time difference between the two mouths, questioning how time would progress after a period of 20 years.
  • Another participant describes a typical scenario where the wormhole end travels at high speed and returns, suggesting that without gravitational potential differences, observers would age at the same rate when communicating through the wormhole.
  • A participant seeks clarification on whether, after establishing a time difference and stopping the motion of the wormhole mouths, both mouths continue to move into the future with their time difference or remain at their original times.
  • It is noted that if a time difference is established, future entries into the wormhole would result in corresponding exits at the other mouth that reflect the established time difference, rather than returning to the original time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how time progresses after a time difference is established between the wormhole mouths, indicating that there is no consensus on the implications of relativistic effects and time synchronization in this context.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexities of synchronizing clocks in relativity and the potential ambiguities that arise from different scenarios involving motion and gravitational effects.

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Suppose a wormhole time machine is made by moving one mouth close to speed of light for a suitable time. Further suppose that immediately after the time machine is first completed, we have the following:

Time at Mouth 'A' ---> 2010
Time at Mouth 'B' ---> 2000

Now if 20 years go by, would the times be:

20 Yr Later Time at Mouth 'A' ---> 2010
20 Yr Later Time at Mouth 'B' ---> 2000

OR,

20 Yr Later Time at Mouth 'A' ---> 2010 + 20 = 2030
20 Yr Later Time at Mouth 'B' ---> 2000 + 20 = 2050 ?
 
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In the usual case, the wormhole end travels at a high speed, comes back, and stops. I'm not quite sure what case you're envisioning.

I can give you a quick answer as to what I think you'll see in the case I described. If you look through the wormhole, and pass notes to the person on the other end, you'll see them age at the same rate as you do. At least, as long as there isn't any sort of gravitational potential difference between the two wormhole ends, that is. With no potential difference, there is no gravitational redshifting, so you'll see time pass at the same rate looking through the wormhole.

(Note: I've tried to make things simple here as far as explaining why there isn't any difference in aging when looking through the wormhole, rather than to be precise.)

You could even visit back and forth, through the wormhole, and they'd be the same age.

But when they take a round trip at relativistic speeds and come back, when you visit them, you being the "stay at home" twin, they'll be much younger than you.

Note that if they don't come back home and stop, you'll have the usual ambiguities of how to synchronize your clocks that you always get in relativity.
 
Thank you for the reply pervect.

Let me try to rephrase my question. After all motion of the wormhole mouths have stopped, and a time difference is established between the two mouths, do both mouths now move into the future with their time difference or do they stay in their original time?
 
edgepflow said:
Thank you for the reply pervect.

Let me try to rephrase my question. After all motion of the wormhole mouths have stopped, and a time difference is established between the two mouths, do both mouths now move into the future with their time difference or do they stay in their original time?
Time does continue to go forward as normally. If there is a five-year difference, so that entering mouth A in 2010 causes you to exit mouth B in 2005, that means that if you enter mouth A in 2020, you'll exit mouth B in 2015, not 2005.
 

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