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can a wormhole be sustained by the emitions from the casimir effect and what would be the proposed setup of the whole device
Wormholes and the casimir effect
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Discussion Overview
The discussion explores the potential relationship between wormholes and the Casimir effect, particularly whether the emissions from the Casimir effect could sustain a wormhole. Participants delve into theoretical setups and implications for manipulating spacetime, time travel, and the feasibility of experimental approaches.
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- Exploratory
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- Mathematical reasoning
Main Points Raised
- One participant questions the connection between the Casimir effect and wormholes, suggesting they are fundamentally different concepts in physics.
- Another participant expresses a desire to explore ways of manipulating spacetime, proposing that negative energy from the Casimir effect could create a 'gap' in spacetime.
- The original poster seeks to understand how such a gap could be utilized for travel through space and time, including the possibility of slow travel via a wormhole.
- Concerns are raised about the speculative nature of the inquiry, with a participant emphasizing the lack of verified knowledge in this area and the need for a solid foundation for discussion.
- A later reply references historical considerations of the Casimir effect as a source of exotic matter for wormholes, citing a specific academic paper that discusses a theoretical setup involving large concentric spherical shells.
- Another participant requests practical advice on experimenting with the Casimir effect, seeking insights from those with firsthand experience.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express a range of views, with some questioning the validity of linking the Casimir effect to wormholes, while others explore speculative ideas. No consensus is reached on the relationship between these concepts or the feasibility of proposed experiments.
Contextual Notes
Participants acknowledge the speculative nature of the discussion, with references to the need for a specific basis in physics to avoid violating speculative guidelines. Limitations in available literature and the complexity of the concepts discussed are noted.
Who May Find This Useful
This discussion may be of interest to individuals exploring theoretical physics, particularly in the realms of spacetime manipulation, wormhole theory, and the Casimir effect, as well as those considering experimental approaches to these topics.
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Asking this opens up a can of worms 
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vanesch said:Asking this opens up a can of worms
I hope you didn't stay up late on that one...
To the original poster: your question needs clarification because Casimir effect has nothing much to do with wormholes. They are at opposite ends of the physics spectrum.
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ive done a lot of reading on this, and I am just not finding any connections between a casimir effects negative energy and wormhole sustaining
mostly I am trying to explore different ways of manipulating spacetime, not that i hope to accomplish much but I am mostly self educated and literature on this topic isn't widely available
from what i understand the negative energy could possibley repel spacetime away from it creating a 'gap' of complete nothingness. what i want to know is how would this 'gap' be utilized. for example travel to another point in space, and how the process would be different from another point in time
besides having one gate stationary and accelerating the other gate at light speed and then using the stationary one to instantly transport to the other transporting you back in time and through space
personally i think that light speed travel is a waste of time and I am only interested in ways around it if possible
mostly I am interested in any equations or theories that i can apply to this or time travel or wormhole travel in general, i have a lot in my notes, but nothing of any real value to me
another thing id like to know if anyone out there has any answers, is if its possible to travel via a wormhole slowly. as in travel back in time 2 years and the trip lasting 2 years. everytime i think i find some useful information online the end of the article mentions ufology and ancient culture alien codes in hyroglyphs as the source of the information, and so i just ignore it altogether to avoid any future embarassment
please feel free to criticize any ideas I've proposed because its all helpful in my search for knowledge on this topic
mostly I am trying to explore different ways of manipulating spacetime, not that i hope to accomplish much but I am mostly self educated and literature on this topic isn't widely available
from what i understand the negative energy could possibley repel spacetime away from it creating a 'gap' of complete nothingness. what i want to know is how would this 'gap' be utilized. for example travel to another point in space, and how the process would be different from another point in time
besides having one gate stationary and accelerating the other gate at light speed and then using the stationary one to instantly transport to the other transporting you back in time and through space
personally i think that light speed travel is a waste of time and I am only interested in ways around it if possible
mostly I am interested in any equations or theories that i can apply to this or time travel or wormhole travel in general, i have a lot in my notes, but nothing of any real value to me
another thing id like to know if anyone out there has any answers, is if its possible to travel via a wormhole slowly. as in travel back in time 2 years and the trip lasting 2 years. everytime i think i find some useful information online the end of the article mentions ufology and ancient culture alien codes in hyroglyphs as the source of the information, and so i just ignore it altogether to avoid any future embarassment
please feel free to criticize any ideas I've proposed because its all helpful in my search for knowledge on this topic
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What "knowledge"?
What you want is something that isn't verified or well-established in physics. This means that there is either (i) no answer or (ii) more than one possible scenario. What you want to know are various speculative ideas on this. Unless you have some specific basis as a foundation, this would violate our speculative guidelines.
Zz.
What you want is something that isn't verified or well-established in physics. This means that there is either (i) no answer or (ii) more than one possible scenario. What you want to know are various speculative ideas on this. Unless you have some specific basis as a foundation, this would violate our speculative guidelines.
Zz.
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is everyone on here so cynical? if so then I am never leaving
but really, i need something constructive, if i was to experiment with the casimir effect, what feasible setup would i need if anyone has some first hand experience in this
i can find it on the net, but i would like to know from someone who has tried it themselves, what works and what is feasible for someone with a moderate spending allowance on equipment
but really, i need something constructive, if i was to experiment with the casimir effect, what feasible setup would i need if anyone has some first hand experience in this
i can find it on the net, but i would like to know from someone who has tried it themselves, what works and what is feasible for someone with a moderate spending allowance on equipment
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Imperium,
The Casimir effect as source of exotic matter to hold open a wormhole was considered seriously a long time ago. Take a look at M. Morris, K. Thorne, and U. Yurtsever, "Wormholes, Time Machines, and the Weak Energy Condition", Phys. Rev. Lett., 61, 1446 (1988).
The arrangement they considered involved two huge concentric spherical shells of metal. The radius of these spheres was 93 million miles, yet their separation still had to be tiny ~ 10^(-10) cm. Not conducive to easy set up in your garage.
The Casimir effect as source of exotic matter to hold open a wormhole was considered seriously a long time ago. Take a look at M. Morris, K. Thorne, and U. Yurtsever, "Wormholes, Time Machines, and the Weak Energy Condition", Phys. Rev. Lett., 61, 1446 (1988).
The arrangement they considered involved two huge concentric spherical shells of metal. The radius of these spheres was 93 million miles, yet their separation still had to be tiny ~ 10^(-10) cm. Not conducive to easy set up in your garage.
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