Write an Equation given a solution to an ODE

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The discussion revolves around finding a system of differential equations for which the solution is given as (t, 1). Participants are exploring various approaches to formulate such a system, particularly in the context of ordinary differential equations (ODEs).

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants are considering the formulation of the system as an eigenvalue problem and questioning whether (t, 1) can fit into that framework. There are suggestions to explore other forms of systems beyond the eigenvalue approach. Some participants propose specific equations, such as dx/dt = t and dy/dt = 1, and inquire about solving for x and y. Additionally, questions are raised about constructing a second-order linear differential equation that corresponds to the given solution and how to express a second-order equation as a matrix system.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thoughts and suggestions. Some guidance has been offered regarding working backwards from the required solution to derive an appropriate system. There is an acknowledgment of the need for a system that admits the specified solution without additional restrictions, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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Participants note the lack of specific equations or methods initially, which may affect the direction of the discussion. The original poster and others express uncertainty about the types of systems that could work, leading to a broader exploration of possibilities.

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Homework Statement


Give an example of a system of differential equations for which ##(t,1)## is a solution.

Homework Equations


Nothing comes to mind.

The Attempt at a Solution


I thought to initial pose the system as an eigenvalue problem ##\vec{x}' = A \vec{x}##. However, ##(t,1)## is generally not an eigenvalue. Any ideas?

Would any system work you think, not necessarily ##\vec{x}' = A \vec{x}##?

Thanks!
 
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joshmccraney said:

Homework Statement


Give an example of a system of differential equations for which ##(t,1)## is a solution.

Homework Equations


Nothing comes to mind.

The Attempt at a Solution


I thought to initial pose the system as an eigenvalue problem ##\vec{x}' = A \vec{x}##. However, ##(t,1)## is generally not an eigenvalue. Any ideas?

Would any system work you think, not necessarily ##\vec{x}' = A \vec{x}##?
What about this?
##\frac{dx}{dt} = t##
##\frac{dy}{dt} = 1##
Can you solve for x and y?
 
joshmccraney said:

Homework Statement


Give an example of a system of differential equations for which ##(t,1)## is a solution.

Homework Equations


Nothing comes to mind.

The Attempt at a Solution


I thought to initial pose the system as an eigenvalue problem ##\vec{x}' = A \vec{x}##. However, ##(t,1)## is generally not an eigenvalue. Any ideas?

Would any system work you think, not necessarily ##\vec{x}' = A \vec{x}##?

Thanks!
Two questions:
1. Can you come up with a second order linear DE with those two solutions?
2. Do you know how to write a second order as a 2 by 2 matrix system?
 
joshmccraney said:

Homework Statement


Give an example of a system of differential equations for which ##(t,1)## is a solution.

Homework Equations


Nothing comes to mind.

The Attempt at a Solution


I thought to initial pose the system as an eigenvalue problem ##\vec{x}' = A \vec{x}##. However, ##(t,1)## is generally not an eigenvalue. Any ideas?

Would any system work you think, not necessarily ##\vec{x}' = A \vec{x}##?

Thanks!

Rather than guessing, it is easiest to work backwards from the required solution until you have an appropriate system. Here you just need "a system of differential equations" (with no additional restrictions on the type of system) which admits the required solution, and differentiating the required solution once will get you "a system of differential equations" which admits the required solution.

That said, there is a system of the form [itex]\vec{x}' = A \vec {x}[/itex]; since [itex]1 = e^{0t}[/itex] and [itex]t = te^{0t}[/itex] you are looking for a matrix which has two zero eigenvalues but is not the zero matrix.
 

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