Writing decimal radians in terms of Pi

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the conversion of decimal radians into terms of Pi, particularly in the context of polar coordinates and Argand diagrams. Participants explore how to express specific decimal radian values as fractions of Pi, while also addressing the relevance and utility of such conversions.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about converting -0.983 radians into terms of Pi, referencing a previous example of 45 degrees equating to π/4.
  • Another participant provides a conversion method using degrees, stating -56.34 degrees equals \(\frac{-56.34}{180} \pi\).
  • A subsequent reply suggests that the conversion can be approached algebraically, leading to approximately -0.313Pi for -0.983 radians.
  • Some participants express skepticism about the necessity of converting radians to terms of Pi, suggesting that leaving them in decimal form may be more appropriate.
  • There is mention of specific values like 0.707 radians, with some participants recalling its relation to \(\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\) and its significance in trigonometric functions.
  • One participant reflects on their confusion regarding the conversion, realizing that not all decimal values can be neatly expressed as fractions of Pi.
  • Another participant argues that while anything can technically be expressed in terms of Pi, the practicality and insight of such conversions should be considered.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants exhibit a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the necessity and utility of converting decimal radians to terms of Pi. Some advocate for the conversion, while others argue that it may not always be meaningful or necessary.

Contextual Notes

Participants express varying levels of comfort with angles and trigonometric concepts, indicating that some foundational understanding may be assumed or lacking. The discussion includes both algebraic approaches and conceptual clarifications, highlighting the complexity of the topic.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to students and individuals seeking to understand the relationship between decimal radians and their representations in terms of Pi, particularly in the context of trigonometry and polar coordinates.

Matty R
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Hello :smile:

Sorry if this is in the wrong place, I don't know where else to put it.

Is there a way to write radians as decimals in terms of Pi?

I'm currently doing Polar Coordinates with Argand Diagrams, and this is something I'm curious about.

I've just done a question and come out with -0.983 rad. We've left it in decimal form in lectures, but I was just curious to know how I'd go about writing it in terms of Pi.

45\deg = 0.785 = \frac{\pi}{4}

-56.34\deg = -0.983= \frac{?}{?}

Anyone know?

Also, I've always had trouble with angles. Calculus? Love it. Trig? Huh!

Thanks
 
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-56.34 deg=\frac{-56.34}{180} \pi
 
Matty R said:
We've left it in decimal form in lectures, but I was just curious to know how I'd go about writing it in terms of Pi.
So, you have an equation with an unknown? Why can't you solve it?
 
Thanks for the replies. :smile:

elibj123 said:
-56.34 deg=\frac{-56.34}{180} \pi

I'd never thought of doing that. I'm actually a bit worried now. I should have known that by now.

Would you happen to know how to convert the -0.983 directly in terms of Pi, without using degrees at any point?

I'm starting to recognise angles in decimal radians, so I figure it would be good to know (and understand) what they are in terms of Pi.

I've just got these from further questions:

1.047 = \frac{\pi}{3}

0.707 = \frac{?}{?}

I've seen the second one before, but I can't remember what it is in terms of Pi.



Hurkyl said:
So, you have an equation with an unknown? Why can't you solve it?

I'm really sorry, but I don't know what you mean. I can do the questions as I've been shown in lectures. I'm asking about this "conversion" to mostly satisfy my own curiosity. :smile:
 
Matty R said:
...

Would you happen to know how to convert the -0.983 directly in terms of Pi, without using degrees at any point?

...

Assuming you mean "in terms of Pi radians", I guess you're looking for x*Pi = -0.983, which is straightforward algebra. This gives you about -0.313Pi.
 
0.707 \, \text{rad}=x\, \pi \,rad

Divide both sides by \pi radians:

\frac{0.707}{\pi}=x
 
Hello Matty R! :smile:

(have a pi: π and a degree: º :wink:)
Matty R said:
… I've just done a question and come out with -0.983 rad. We've left it in decimal form in lectures, but I was just curious to know how I'd go about writing it in terms of Pi.

You wouldn't! :smile:

Just leave it in radians …

why do you think you need to change it? :wink:
 
Matty R said:
0.707 = \frac{?}{?}

I've seen the second one before, but I can't remember what it is in terms of Pi.

Yes, you most likely saw this one from \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} :smile:
 
And tiny-tim has a point. You wouldn't change it in terms of \pi because your answer is obviously approximated and most likely since you had to approximate the answer, it's not going to be a nice fractional radian value such as \pi/4 etc.
 
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Matty R said:
0.707 = \frac{?}{?}
Mentallic said:
Yes, you most likely saw this one from \frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} :smile:

Yes, 0.707 = cos(π/4) = sin(π/4). :wink:
 
  • #11
Wow. Thanks for all the replies. :smile:

I think I see where I got a bit confused. I thought everything could be written in terms of Pi, but its the fractions like \frac{1}{\sqrt2} that I need to be looking at.

I am so bad with angles. Getting better though. :smile:

I love this site.

Thank you all very much. :smile:
 
  • #12
Matty R said:
I think I see where I got a bit confused. I thought everything could be written in terms of Pi, but its the fractions like \frac{1}{\sqrt2} that I need to be looking at.

Anything can be written in terms of \pi, if you like:

\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}}\,\text{rad}=\frac{1}{\sqrt{2}} \cdot \frac{\pi}{\pi}\,\text{rad}\approx 0.225 \pi \, \text{rad} \approx 0.707 \, \text{rad}

Whether you want to just depends on what's most useful or convenient or meaningful, or what kind of answer gives most insight.
 

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