YBCO critical temperature not right

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The discussion revolves around the critical temperature measurements of YBCO (Yttrium Barium Copper Oxide) using a superconducting kit with a susceptibility probe. Participants explore various factors that may influence the measured critical temperature, which is reported to be lower than the expected range of 90 to 93 K.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant reports achieving a critical temperature of 78.8 K and later between 80 and 84 K, expressing concern about the discrepancy with expected values.
  • Another participant references a report suggesting that measurement discrepancies could arise from the temperature sensor's response time compared to the YBCO pellet.
  • It is noted that the heating process in the oven may significantly affect the oxygen content in YBCO, which in turn influences the critical temperature.
  • A participant requests more details about the processing procedure, including calcination and annealing, to better understand the measurement results.
  • There is a mention that the transition width for superconductors is generally wider in susceptibility measurements compared to resistivity measurements.
  • One participant questions whether resistivity measurements were conducted alongside susceptibility measurements, suggesting that discrepancies might indicate inaccuracies in the susceptibility measurement.
  • Another participant mentions that most YBCO samples are optimally doped, implying that it is unlikely the sample is significantly underdoped or overdoped.

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Participants express various hypotheses regarding the factors affecting the critical temperature measurements, but there is no consensus on the reasons for the discrepancies. Multiple competing views and uncertainties remain regarding the measurement techniques and sample conditions.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight potential limitations in measurement accuracy, the influence of sample preparation, and the importance of comparing different measurement methods. However, specific assumptions and unresolved details about the experimental setup are not fully clarified.

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In doing some research using a basic superconducting kit with a susceptibility probe, we set out to find the critical temperature for the YBCO compound.

In our first attempts, we were only able to achieve a critical temperature of 78.8 K, and the actual value is said to be between 90 and 93 K.

We then tried applying different currents during the experiment and found that our critical temperature changed a little bit and got a little closer to the expected value, but we were still only able to achieve between 80 and 84 K for our critical temperature.

I feel like we are far off of the expected value, any insight or reasons as to why this may be?
 
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1) I found a link here, maybe it helps:
http://www.mrsec.psu.edu/education/teachers/fellowships/prev_fellowships/YBCOproject.pdf
http://www.virtualflint.com/summer01/psu/ybco.html

Mr. Flint mentions in his report that he measured a lower critical temperature because the temperature sensor adapted faster to the lower temperature than the YBCO pellet (see page 9).
I don't know if this also applies in your setup.

2) The way you heat the chemicals in the oven seems to be important (see page 3 for a temperature-time diagram)

Another article (unfortunately I only found a German vesion) http://www.uni-kiel.de/anorg/bensch/lehre/Dokumente/versuch_f1_yttrium_barium_cuprat.pdf=http://www.uni-kiel.de/anorg/bensch/lehre/Dokumente/versuch_f1_yttrium_barium_cuprat.pdf shows a temperature-time diagram for the oven (see page 5). The diagram is important because it influences how much oxygen is in the "structure" (see page 4).
According to the article you heat the chemicals in the oven to 950°C in a specified manner (°C per second) and get

[tex]Y Ba_2 Cu_3 O_{7-x}[/tex]

with x = 1. But the resulting YBCO with x = 1 is still not superconducting.
The further procedure of heating at 500°C (see the temperature-time diagram on page 5) changes x to approximately 0 because oxygen is absorbed.
For x = 0, YBCO has a critical temperature of 90K. On page 4 you can read that x = 0.25 results in a critical temperature of 60K.

Note: I am not an expert and I have never experimented with superconductors.
 
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I believe I might be of some help with your problem, but I'll need to know some more details about your processing procedure, such as calcination and annealing conditions.

Note that genrally speaking, the transition width for SC is "wider" for a susceptibility measurement as compared to a resistivity measurement.

Also note, that the critical temperature generally gets lower as you apply a current, so that is a bit puzzling as well.
 
donpeters said:
In doing some research using a basic superconducting kit with a susceptibility probe, we set out to find the critical temperature for the YBCO compound.

In our first attempts, we were only able to achieve a critical temperature of 78.8 K, and the actual value is said to be between 90 and 93 K.

We then tried applying different currents during the experiment and found that our critical temperature changed a little bit and got a little closer to the expected value, but we were still only able to achieve between 80 and 84 K for our critical temperature.

I feel like we are far off of the expected value, any insight or reasons as to why this may be?

Did you check this by measuring the resistivity (your statement on "applying different currents" is vague and I'm not sure if you measurement the resistance here)? It would be worth while comparing the susceptibility measurement with the resistivity measurement - they should coincide very closely. If they don't, then my guess is that the susceptibility measurement isn't done accurately.

And to address what Edgardo said, most YBCO samples that are widely distributed at optimally-doped. This means that the Tc value is the highest possible. Underdoped and overdopped samples tend to "evolve" towards the optimally doped level over time. So while it is possible, I find it rather unlikely that this sample of YBCO is not at or near optimal doping.

Zz.
 

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