Young's experiment - lowering the light intensity of one slit

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The discussion revolves around Young's double-slit experiment, specifically focusing on the effects of lowering the light intensity of one slit on interference patterns. Participants explore how changes in amplitude affect constructive and destructive interference, questioning the implications for intensity at various points on the screen.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between amplitudes in the context of interference, questioning how reduced intensity in one slit influences the overall interference pattern. They raise concerns about the presence of dark spots and the conditions for destructive interference.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants sharing their reasoning and questioning assumptions about amplitude and intensity. Some guidance regarding the use of phasors is offered, but there is no consensus on the implications of the findings or the specific conditions for minimum intensity.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem may imply certain constraints, such as the absence of dark spots under specific conditions, and they express uncertainty about the interpretation of intensity variations across the screen.

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Homework Statement
We change the usual experiment by filtering one of the two slits, so that the intensity of the light that comes out of it becomes half than the intensity of the other slit.
Find the new Imax/Imin in the experiment
Relevant Equations
I is correlated to A^2
I think that what happens is that the amplitude becomes sqrt(2)/2A in the slit filtered, as opposed to A in the other slit.

I suppose we will still get constructive interference from the slits, so the value (1+sqrt(2)/2)A will be reached as opposed to 2A in the usual experiment.

However, the question seems to imply that there will be no dark spots at all. I can't understand why, and how to get the answer.

The final answer is: 33.97
 
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Eitan Levy said:
I think that what happens is that the amplitude becomes sqrt(2)/2A in the slit filtered, as opposed to A in the other slit.

I suppose we will still get constructive interference from the slits, so the value (1+sqrt(2)/2)A will be reached as opposed to 2A in the usual experiment.
Yes

However, the question seems to imply that there will be no dark spots at all. I can't understand why, and how to get the answer.

When two waves are a half wavelength out of phase, what must be the relationship between their amplitudes in order for them to give complete destructive interference (i.e., to produce zero intensity)?
 
TSny said:
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When two waves are a half wavelength out of phase, what must be the relationship between their amplitudes in order for them to give complete destructive interference (i.e., to produce zero intensity)?
I understand that in the spots that are dark before we will get (1-sqrt(2)/2)A and that also gives the correct answer. I can't understand why there won't be other points were the intensity will be lower.
Won't there be points where the filtered slit will reach "stronger" than the unfiltered one? There were some points like that before I believe, what happens to them now?
Maybe the question is discussing only the spots where constructive and destructive interference were received?
 
Eitan Levy said:
Won't there be points where the filtered slit will reach "stronger" than the unfiltered one?
Yes. There are points where at certain instants of time the filtered wave has a greater value than the unfiltered wave. (Just about all points on the screen have this property.) But there are no points where the intensity I is such that Imax/I is greater than 33.97.
Maybe the question is discussing only the spots where constructive and destructive interference were received?
Can you see that Imin occurs when the waves are ##\pi## radians out of phase? A nice way to see this is with the use of phasors (if you are familiar with this concept).
 
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TSny said:
Can you see that Imin occurs when the waves are ##\pi## radians out of phase? A nice way to see this is with the use of phasors (if you are familiar with this concept).
No, I can't see why this is the case if the waves do not have the same amplitude.
 
Eitan Levy said:
No, I can't see why this is the case if the waves do not have the same amplitude.
Consider a point on the screen where the phase difference between the two waves is ##\phi##. Let the wave from slit 1 at that point be ##A_1\sin( \omega t)## and the wave from slit 2 be ##A_2 \sin (\omega t +\phi)##. Using trig identities or using phasors, you can show that when these are added together, the result is ##A_{\rm net} \sin(\omega t +\phi_{\rm net})##, where

##A_{\rm net} = \sqrt {A_1^2+A_2^2+2A_1A_2 \cos\phi}##

##\tan \phi_{\rm net} = \large \frac{A_2 \sin \phi}{A_1 + A_2 \cos \phi}##

The resultant intensity is proportional to ##A_{\rm net}^2##. For what value of ##\phi## do you get ##I_{\rm min}##?

[Added note: For any point on the screen, there will be instants of time when the sum of the two waves is zero. But, the intensity ##I## at a point on the screen is defined in terms of the time average of the resultant wave.]
 
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