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Andre
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Would the Zapruder film (JFK assassination) be discussable? Not really suitable for minors or? I saw some pretty compelling evidence that it's faked.
I don't believe the conspiracy theories, but we often hear about his marksmanship skills. According to the Wik link on him, his level of qualification was relatively low. He qualified as "sharpshooter" which is, in fact, the middle of three qualification levels, not the highest.Schrodinger's Dog said:It's not an easy shot but then the shooter wasn't an average, or even an excellent shot, he was an exceptional marksman.
[/URL]fourier jr said:When I watch the Zapruder film I see JFK's head go back & to the left, which implies that a shot came from the front/right. (probably from the grassy knoll) I've never understood what the debate is all about.
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[/URL]fourier jr said:When I watch the Zapruder film I see JFK's head go back & to the left, which implies that a shot came from the front/right. (probably from the grassy knoll) I've never understood what the debate is all about.
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Ivan Seeking said:Eh, there are a couple of interesting points. The one that I found most interesting is the spread of the man's legs that allegedly changes in one frame. I was watching his motion relative to that of the people in the car, and there does seem to be a discrepancy...
Ivan Seeking said:Eh, there are a couple of interesting points. The one that I found most interesting is the spread of the man's legs that allegedly changes in one frame. I was watching his motion relative to that of the people in the car, and there does seem to be a discrepancy.
Most of the rest didn't impress me on a first pass. What they claim could be so but I hardly see it as self-evident. There are other points that bother me as well. For example, while some people do appear to be looking the wrong direction, it seems that I can also see a few people tracking the car with their cameras.
This is a clear cut case of S&D so I'm moving the thread. Debunking or debate about the film is fine, but we can only speak to the evidence on the film and not to greater conspiracy theories.
Andre said:Well, the proof is in the pudding. t would be very easy to reconstruct the whole scene. I think Elmstreet is still unchanged and it would not be too hard to make a movie of bystanders and the cars driving and compare it with the movie, it would either confirm or deny the authenticity of the Zapruder movie. Who dares?
Andre said:Well, the proof is in the pudding. t would be very easy to reconstruct the whole scene. I think Elmstreet is still unchanged and it would not be too hard to make a movie of bystanders and the cars driving and compare it with the movie, it would either confirm or deny the authenticity of the Zapruder movie. Who dares?
Andre said:I'm not into US politics and I should be neutral. But from what I observed, I do think that JFK was on the very short list of the best US president ever and I understand why there could be a conspiracy to get rid of him and that sucks.
rbj said:probably the same thing will happen to President Obama, for about the same reason.
(BTW, i am not much of a conspiracy nut, but i do think that the "Single Bullet Theory" is harder to believe than the alternative and that, for likely conspiratorial reasons, it was pushed despite the physical unlikelihood, because they didn't want to deal with the alternative.)
Andre said:It's not about bullet theories, it's about people behind the car being much larger than the people in the car.
There is no definitive evidence that the Zapruder film was altered or faked. The film has been analyzed extensively by experts and there is no consensus on any alterations or manipulation. However, some researchers have suggested that there may have been minor alterations to the film, such as the removal of frames or the addition of sound effects.
Some people believe the Zapruder film is fake because they find it difficult to accept the official version of events surrounding the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. They may also point to discrepancies in the film, such as the lack of visible damage to the president's head, as evidence of manipulation.
The authenticity of the Zapruder film is supported by multiple factors. First, the film has been examined by experts and no evidence of manipulation has been found. Additionally, the film has been corroborated by other eyewitness accounts and photographic evidence. The original film has also been subjected to extensive forensic analysis, which has not revealed any signs of tampering.
There are several alternative theories about the Zapruder film, including the idea that it was altered to hide the true cause of Kennedy's death or to support a conspiracy theory. Some have also suggested that the film may have been altered to make it more graphic and shocking, in order to sway public opinion.
While it is impossible to be 100% certain about the authenticity of the Zapruder film, there are several factors that support its authenticity. These include the film's chain of custody, the testimony of witnesses who saw the film being taken, and the lack of any concrete evidence of manipulation. Additionally, the film has been examined by multiple experts and their analyses have not revealed any signs of tampering.