Zero Point Switching with transformer

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The discussion revolves around a homework problem related to Zero Point Switching in a transformer circuit. Participants analyze the behavior of the circuit under specific conditions, including voltage calculations and waveform characteristics. The scope includes mathematical reasoning and technical explanations related to AC power analysis.

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  • One participant presents a circuit problem involving Zero Point Switching and requests assistance with voltage and current calculations.
  • Another participant questions the formula used for calculating VRL(RMS), suggesting it should include a square root.
  • There is a discussion about the correct interpretation of peak-to-peak voltage, with one participant asserting it is 50 V based on the graph provided.
  • Participants debate the relationship between RMS power and average power, with one stating they should be considered the same in the context of AC current.

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Participants express differing views on the formulas for calculating RMS values and the interpretation of peak-to-peak voltage. There is no consensus on the correct approach to these calculations, indicating ongoing disagreement.

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Some assumptions about the definitions of power calculations and the interpretation of voltage values may be missing or unclear, leading to confusion in the discussion.

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Femme_physics
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So with my final test tomorrow I thought to sneak in another question...

Homework Statement



The following circuit applies switch at the load RL via Zero Point Switching. The ratio of the coil windings at the transformer is N1:N2 = 4:1. The introductory voltage is a sinusoidal type and its RMS value is 100 volts RMS at a frequency of f=40hz. The switch circuit activates switch S the following way:

Every full uneven cycle (from 0 degrees to 360 degrees) the switch is used as a shortcircuit.
Every full even cycle (from 0 degrees to 360 degrees) the switch is used as a disconnection.

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1) Based on the data above, draw the voltage on the load at 4 cycles of Vin. In your drawing mark the max voltages positive and negative as well as significant times.

2) Calculate
A) VRL(RMS), IRL (RMS)
B) VRL (AVG), IRL (AVG)
C) PRL (RMS)
D) Vptp

The Attempt at a Solution



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Hey Fp.

1) You graph looks good. :S

2a) Your formula for Vrl(rms) does not look right.
There should be a square root in it...

2b) Good.

2c) Same problem
Actually here you should take the average of the powers in each cycle.

2d) Vptp is the peak-to-peak voltage.
What is the highest voltage you have (look at your graph)?
And what is the lowest voltage you have?
 
30 mins before I need to take the test :)

Vptp is 25 volts
2a) Your formula for Vrl(rms) does not look right.
There should be a square root in it...

Are you sure?

Actually here you should take the average of the powers in each cycle.

Hmm...we are told that if we're asked for the power with an AC current, we should always take it as RMS power.
 
Femme_physics said:
30 mins before I need to take the test :)

Then I'm probably too late. ;)
Good luck!

Vptp is 25 volts

Better.
But peak-to-peak is -25 to +25, which is 50 V.


Are you sure?

Yes.
It should be 25/√2 volt.

Hmm...we are told that if we're asked for the power with an AC current, we should always take it as RMS power.

Actually, RMS power and average power are the same.
 

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