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| Sep9-09, 10:18 PM | #1 |
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Partial differential equations represented as "operators"
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Partial differential equations (PDEs) can be represented in the form Lu=f(x,y) where L is an operator. Example: Input: u(x,y) Operator: L=∂xy + cos(x) + (∂y)2 => Output: Lu = uxy+cos(x) u + (uy)2 2. Relevant equations N/A 3. The attempt at a solution I don't understand the parts in red. What does (∂y)2 mean? Shouldn't it mean (∂y)(∂y) which (I believe) means taking the second partial derivative with respect to y. But the above example seems to imply that (∂y)2 means take the partial derivative with respect to y and then square the result. But I just can't possibly understand how (∂y)2u would be equal to (∂yu)2 I don't have a lot of experience working with operators, so I am feeling really confused. Could someone please kindly explain? Thank you very much! |
| Sep9-09, 10:25 PM | #2 |
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I think you are right. It should be u_yy, the second derivative. Not (u_y)^2. It's a linear operator. Is it a typo?
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| Sep9-09, 10:31 PM | #3 |
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Also, if they really meant (uy)2, how could it be expressed as an "operator"? Thanks! |
| Sep9-09, 10:41 PM | #4 |
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Partial differential equations represented as "operators"
This is getting a little overly semantic. del_yy=(del_y)^2. If they mean O(u)=(u_y)^2, that is an operator. But it's not a linear operator. And I wouldn't write it as del_yy or (del_y)^2.
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| Sep9-09, 11:15 PM | #5 |
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For example, if we have the PDE:
uxy+cos(x) u + (uy)2 = x How can we express it in "operator" form Lu=f(x,y)? OK, in this case, f(x,y)=x, but what would L be? L=∂xy + cos(x) + ????? |
| Sep10-09, 06:42 AM | #6 |
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| Sep10-09, 02:38 PM | #7 |
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I think I may be missing something...so whenever we write L= (...) + (...) + (...), is L necessarily always a LINEAR operator? Can non-linear operators be expressed this way?
Also, there is something in general that I don't understand about operators...(I'm just guessing that I can do things like the following) If L=∂xy + cos(x) + (∂y)2, to find Lu, should we just imagine multiplying L with u (just like multiplying real numbers?), so Lu = [∂xy + cos(x) + (∂y)2] u =∂xy u + cos(x) u + (∂y)2 u (by distributive law of multiplication) ? |
| Sep10-09, 02:48 PM | #8 |
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If L is just a sum of differential operators and functions as you are writing then every term in Lu will only have one u in it. So you are going to have a hard time getting (u_y)^2. And yes, you just distribute the operator, so in your example you get Lu=u_xy+cos(x)u+u_yy. Or u_yx+cos(x)u+u_yy depending on how you define ∂xy.
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| Sep10-09, 02:53 PM | #9 |
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| Sep10-09, 03:05 PM | #10 |
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| Sep11-09, 12:59 AM | #11 |
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| Sep11-09, 08:23 AM | #12 |
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