Scalefactor at different times

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In summary, the scalefactor a(t) has the value a(t=0) = 0. Today, at time t_0, the scalefactor is equal to 1, which is a convenient definition. This allows us to specify the scalefactor at other times relative to the present moment. Similarly, the density parameter Omega_0 is also a fixed value at t_0, which is the present moment. This is not just a definition, but is based on observations that show the universe is approximately spatially flat. Calculations using galaxy redshift surveys and the CMB map support this conclusion. Overall, the scalefactor and density parameter are important concepts in understanding the expansion and structure of the universe.
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The scalefactor a(t) has the value a(t=0) = 0.

My teacher said today that a(t_0)=1. Why is it that the scalefactor has the value 1 today, which is the time t_0? Is it a definition?

The same with the densityparameter Omega_0. Why is this also at a fixed value for t_0, which is now?
 
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Niles said:
Is it a definition?

Yes. Exactly right. It is how it is defined.
t_0 is the symbol used to stand for the present moment.

We can know the scalefactor at other times only relative to the present. We don't have it in absolute units like inches or kilometers. We can only say that at such and such epoch it was 1/1000 of what it is today, or 0.3 of what it is today.

So the simplest way to define it is to define a(present) = 1
and that makes it possible to specify it for other times.
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For example if we see a quasar with redshift z = 6
then we know the univese has expanded by a factor of 7 while the light has been traveling to us
so we can immediately say that the scalefactor was equal to 1/8 at the moment when the light left the quasar and began its journey
a(then) = 1/8.
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in the case of scalefactor, saying a(present) = 1 is just a matter of simple convenient bookkeeping
it is the conventional definition

but in the case of Omega there is more to it. We can OBSERVE that the universe is approximately spatially flat. There is discussion and uncertainty about what Omega is exactly. Some say it is exactly 1 and some just say it is like 1.01 plus or minus some percentage uncertainty---they give an ERROR BAR for it. But either way everybody agrees that it is NEARLY one.

So a teacher will be tempted to just tell the students to take it equal to one, and not get into the messy business of different studies and data and uncertainty and errorbars.

But it isn't one by definition. Omega is a RATIO of the actual largescale density to the critical density which the universe would have in order to be perfectly flat (largescale average). Since universe is approx flat, the two densities are approx equal, therefore their ratio (Omega) is approx equal to one.

It isn't by definition, it is because of observations.

You should ask Wallace or one of the other professional astronomers here to explain to you how they actually figured out that the universe spatially is nearly flat. heh heh. it is rather neat.
one way is by galaxy redshift surveys
after adjusting for the expansion history you can plot how many galaxies are now (at present) in a ball of radius R
assuming uniform distrib'n the number of galaxies you count tells you the VOLUME of the ball of radius R.
If that volume increases as the cube of R, as R increases, then we have spatial flatness.
if it doesn't increase as the cube. if it increases slower than the cube, then we have some largescale positive curvature.
it is high school geometry reasoning at work, but still it is kind of elegant. they also, as a double check, use the CMB map, the bumpiness of the temperature distribution. I like it. ask your teacher or start a thread here, if you are curious.

IOW how do we know Omega is approximately 1, or that we have spatial near-flatness.
 
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Wow man, a very nice response. Thanks a lot for taking the time to write this.

Btw, in your example with the scalefactor, isn't a(then) = 1/7, and not 1/8?
 
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Niles said:
Wow man, a very nice response. Thanks a lot for taking the time to write this.

Btw, in your example with the scalefactor, isn't a(then) = 1/7, and not 1/8?

right! my error thanks for catching it.
 

1. What is scale factor at different times?

The scale factor at different times refers to the ratio of a specific quantity at one time to the same quantity at a different time. It is often used in scientific studies to understand the change in a particular variable over time.

2. How is scale factor at different times calculated?

The scale factor at different times is calculated by dividing the quantity at a specific time by the quantity at a different time. For example, if the quantity at time A is 10 and the quantity at time B is 20, the scale factor at time B would be 2 (20/10).

3. Why is scale factor at different times important in scientific research?

The scale factor at different times is important in scientific research because it allows for the comparison and analysis of data over time. It can help identify trends, patterns, and changes in a particular variable, which can lead to a better understanding of the underlying processes or phenomena being studied.

4. How does scale factor at different times relate to other scientific concepts?

The scale factor at different times is closely related to other scientific concepts such as growth rate, velocity, and acceleration. It can also be used in conjunction with other mathematical tools, such as regression analysis, to further analyze and interpret data.

5. Can scale factor at different times be negative?

Yes, the scale factor at different times can be negative. A negative scale factor indicates a decrease in the quantity being measured at a specific time compared to a different time. This can be useful in understanding the magnitude of change and the direction of the change over time.

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