Approximating Kepler's Equation

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In summary: Wouldn't this give better accuracy?2. I've seen the approximation that sinx is approximated as x when x is small. But x is also small. Why don't people just approximate x as zero?1. Accuracy is not necessarily improved by keeping all terms even though it is more complex. 2. Approximating sinx as x when x is small is a good approximation for small x because sinx ⋍ x. For small x, sin(x) ⋍ x.
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Kepler's equation: M = E - esinE, where E is to be approximated.
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I'm trying to find f(e,M), a function expressed in e and M. I've tried using the trig identity sin(u + v) = sinu*cosv + cosu*sinv, but that just introduces a cosine, which I believe to be useless. Anyone with ideas?
 
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using the trig identity sin(u + v) = sinu*cosv + cosu*sinv
Maybe, apply that expansion, then ...

if you are saying ∊ « 0, try approximating sinx by x, i.e., sin(∊·sinM) by ∊.sinM
and make a corresponding applicable approximation for cos(∊·sinM).

BTW, that's a great graphic!
 
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Thanks, haha. It was done on paint.
I'm still having a little trouble applying the approximation that e is small.
Applying the trig identity, I have
E = M + esin(M + esinM) = M + e[ sinM*cos(esinM) + cosM*sin(esinM)].
Assuming that e is small, sin(esinM) goes to 0 and cos(esinM) = 1.
So, E = M + esinM, which is still the first-order approximation. Am I missing something?
Also, isn't the symbol in "∊ « 0" saying that e is much less than zero?
 
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eurekameh said:
I'm still having a little trouble applying the approximation that e is small.
Applying the trig identity, I have
E = M + esin(M + esinM) = M + e[ sinM*cos(esinM) + cosM*sin(esinM)].
Assuming that e is small, sin(esinM) goes to 0
No. For small x, sin(x) ⋍ x (Try it on your calculator, to show I'm right.)
and cos(esinM) = 1.
Correct.
Also, isn't the symbol in "∊ « 0" saying that e is much less than zero?
:cough: :blushing: I meant that to be ϵ « 1
 
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If e << 1, doesn't that imply that E = M?

If you're trying to simplify an equation, that suggests you want to rid yourself of extra terms, rather than keep stringing them along.
 
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Ah, got it, thanks.
The function is e^2*cosM*sinM. I have two questions:
1. Why not just keep all the terms even though it's a bit more complex? Wouldn't this give better accuracy?
2. I've seen the approximation that sinx is approximated as x when x is small. But x is also small. Why don't people just approximate x as zero?

SteamKing said:
If e << 1, doesn't that imply that E = M?

If you're trying to simplify an equation, that suggests you want to rid yourself of extra terms, rather than keep stringing them along.

To my understanding, E = M is the approximation that we are trying to improve. Sticking the zero-order approximation E = M into E = M + esinE = M + esinM improves the approximation by adding the extra term esinM. So E = M + esinM is the first-order approximation, and what I'm trying to do is find the second-order approximation where a function f(e,M) in E = M + esinM + f(e,M) is to be found.
 
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I confess I don't understand your goal.

It seems to me if you are trying to find second-order, third-order, etc. approximations, for such an uncomplicated formula, you are making more work than evaluating the original formula.
 
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SteamKing said:
I confess I don't understand your goal.

It seems to me if you are trying to find second-order, third-order, etc. approximations, for such an uncomplicated formula, you are making more work than evaluating the original formula.

The original is a transcendental function with no closed form solution. So approximation or numerical method solution is required.

This particular function is a very important one in celestial mechanics, and gave our predecessors much grief as they labored to calculate the motions of the planets. If you're curious, investigate "The Kepler Problem", or "The Prediction Problem" in celestial mechanics (astrodynamics).
 
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SteamKing said:
I confess I don't understand your goal.

It seems to me if you are trying to find second-order, third-order, etc. approximations, for such an uncomplicated formula, you are making more work than evaluating the original formula.

The original Kepler equation M = E + esinE doesn't have a closed-form solution for E, like gneill just said, so approximating E is necessary.

I wrote a Matlab script for numerically approximating E via Newton-Raphson:

M = 2; e = 0.5;
E(1) = M; %initial guess
for i = 1:10
E(i+1) = E(i) - [(M-E(i)+e*sin(E(i)))/(-1+e*cos(E(i)))];
end

But I don't know how to implement the stopping criterion, where my error function could be something like err = abs(E(i+1) - E(i)), and if error < tolerance, the iterations can stop, rather than just keep iterating to 10 iterations like what the script above does. Can you guys help me with this? I've tried using the while function (while error < tolerance), but to no avail.
 
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The goal is clear now. I deal with trying to find solutions to transcendental equations often.

If you use 'while error < tolerance' as the criterion, then no calculations will be done while error > tolerance, which is presumably the case when starting the calculations.
 
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eurekameh said:
Ah, got it, thanks.
The function is e^2*cosM*sinM.
That's what I make it, also.
I have two questions:
1. Why not just keep all the terms even though it's a bit more complex? Wouldn't this give better accuracy?
Accuracy is only part of the goal. Ease/speed of computation is equally desirable. Also, often it's possible to massage the simpler approximating function into something more easily comprehended than the original, leading to a clearer understanding of what the error term will be. When you can be confident the error will be contained within certain acceptable bounds, then there is really no need to actually calculate it, thus freeing you to use the fast computation of the approximating function.
2. I've seen the approximation that sinx is approximated as x when x is small. But x is also small. Why don't people just approximate x as zero?
Try it. First approximate sin(0.01) to 0, then try 0.01.

Let sin(0.01) 0:

percentage error = (sin(0.01) - 0)/sin(0.01)* 100% = 100%


Let sin(0.01) 0.01:

percentage error = (sin(0.01) - 0.01)/sin(0.01)* 100% = -1.7%


Which percentage error looks most acceptable to you? :wink:
 

FAQ: Approximating Kepler's Equation

1. What is Kepler's equation?

Kepler's equation is a mathematical expression that relates the orbital period, semi-major axis, and eccentricity of a planet's orbit around the sun. It is named after the German astronomer Johannes Kepler, who discovered it in the early 17th century.

2. Why is approximating Kepler's equation important?

Approximating Kepler's equation is important because it allows scientists to accurately predict the position of a planet along its orbit at any given time. This information is crucial for understanding the dynamics of the solar system and for planning space missions.

3. How is Kepler's equation approximated?

Kepler's equation is typically approximated using numerical methods, such as the Newton-Raphson method or the Kepler iteration method. These methods involve solving a series of equations to calculate the true anomaly, which is then used to determine the position of the planet along its orbit.

4. What are the limitations of approximating Kepler's equation?

One limitation of approximating Kepler's equation is that it assumes a perfectly elliptical orbit, which is not always the case in real-life situations. Additionally, the accuracy of the approximation can be affected by factors such as the planet's distance from the sun and the presence of other gravitational forces.

5. Can Kepler's equation be used for other celestial bodies?

Yes, Kepler's equation can be used to approximate the orbits of other celestial bodies, such as moons orbiting planets or comets orbiting the sun. However, in some cases, modifications may need to be made to account for factors specific to those bodies, such as perturbations from other nearby objects.

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