Elliptical Orbit and Kepler's equation

In summary, the equation for an ellipse is found to be $1 = \frac{x^2}{a^2} + \frac{y^2}{b^2}$ and Kepler's equation states that $x = a(\cos(E)-e)$ and $y = b\sin(E)$, where E is the eccentric anomaly and e is the eccentricity. However, when these equations are plugged into the equation for the ellipse, a relationship that does not hold is obtained. This is because the coordinate system assumes (0,0) is at the center of the ellipse, not at the focus. The correct coordinate system is where (0,0) is at the focus, and in this case, the equation becomes $\
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Trying to make sense of the math here.
It is easy to find that the equation for an ellipse is:
$$1 = x^2/a^2 + y^2/b^2$$
Then according to Kepler's equation:
$$x = a(\cos(E)-e)$$
$$y = b\sin(E)$$
where E is the eccentric anomaly and e is the eccentricity.

If you plug the Kepler's equations' x and y into the equation for the ellipse, you get a relationship that does not hold:
$$\cos(E) = e/2$$
Are the Kepler's equations approximate? I thought they were exact. What is wrong here?
 
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Try reading the Wiki entry on Eccentric anomaly and studying the diagram. When you write:
[tex] \frac{x^2}{a^2} + \frac{y^2}{b^2} = 1[/tex]
You are implicitly assuming that the (0,0) point is at the center of the ellipse, not at the focus. In this coordinate system, [itex] x = a \cos(E)[/itex], and [itex] y = b \sin(E)[/itex]. The formulas you gave for x and y are in the coordinate system where (0,0) is at the focus of the ellipse (i.e. at the sun). In this coordinate system:
[tex] \frac{(x + a e)^2}{a^2} + \frac{y^2}{b^2} = 1[/tex]
Then everything works out. Note that the diagram in the Wiki page on Eccentric Anomaly is wrong. The distance from the center to the focus is a*e, not e.
 
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1. What is an elliptical orbit?

An elliptical orbit is a type of orbit in which the path of an object around another object (such as a planet around a star) is an ellipse, rather than a perfect circle. This means that the distance between the two objects will vary at different points in the orbit.

2. Who discovered the concept of elliptical orbits?

The concept of elliptical orbits was first described by German astronomer Johannes Kepler in the early 17th century. He developed his three laws of planetary motion, which included the idea of elliptical orbits, based on observations made by Danish astronomer Tycho Brahe.

3. What is Kepler's equation?

Kepler's equation is a mathematical equation developed by Johannes Kepler to describe the relationship between an object's orbital period and its distance from the object it is orbiting. It is used to calculate the orbital period of a planet or other object in an elliptical orbit around a star.

4. How is Kepler's equation used in space exploration?

Kepler's equation is used in space exploration to help calculate the orbital period of planets, moons, and other objects in our solar system and beyond. This information is crucial for understanding the dynamics of these objects and for planning space missions to explore them.

5. Can elliptical orbits change over time?

Yes, elliptical orbits can change over time due to various factors such as gravitational interactions with other objects, tidal forces, and the effects of relativity. However, these changes are usually very gradual and can be predicted and calculated using Kepler's equations and other mathematical models.

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