Antiderivative Help: Solve x^2 (9-(x^2))^(1/2)

In summary, the conversation discusses different methods for finding the antiderivative of (x^2)((9-(x^2))^(1/2)). It is suggested to use a trig substitution, specifically by factoring out a "9" and making the substitution x=3sin(θ). Other methods such as integration by parts or substitution by "u" are also mentioned but may require the use of trigonometric substitutions at some point. It is acknowledged that the antiderivative involves inverse sine.
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can anyone help me find an antiderivative for (x^2)((9-(x^2))^(1/2))
 
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When you see [itex]\sqrt{1- x^2}[/itex] or anything like that, you should think [itex]cos(x)=\sqrt{1- sin^2(x)}[/itex]- and use a trig substitution.

In this problem, factor a "9" out of the squareroot to get [itex]3x^2\sqrt{1- \frac{x^2}{9}}[/itex]. Now make the substitution x= 3sin(θ).

dx= 3cos(θ)dθ and [itex]\sqrt{1- \frac{x^2}{9}}[/itex] becomes [itex]\sqrt{1- sin^2(\theta)}= cos(\theta)[/itex]. The entire integrand becomes sin2(θ)cos2(θ)dθ. You will need to use trig substitutions to integrate that.
 
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I think you may also be able to do it by parts if you let u=x and dv=the rest.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
When you see [itex]\sqrt{1- x^2}[/itex] or anything like that, you should think [itex]cos(x)=\sqrt{1- sin^2(x)}[/itex]- and use a trig substitution.

In this problem, factor a "9" out of the squareroot to get [itex]3x^2\sqrt{1- \frac{x^2}{9}}[/itex]. Now make the substitution x= 3sin(θ).

dx= 3cos(θ)dθ and [itex]\sqrt{1- \frac{x^2}{9}}[/itex] becomes [itex]\sqrt{1- sin^2(\theta)}= cos(\theta)[/itex]. The entire integrand becomes sin2(θ)cos2(θ)dθ. You will need to use trig substitutions to integrate that.

Thanks alot, i was really just wondering if it was possible to do with the scope of my year 12 specialist maths course, and it seems as i can't. As that substitution i am not familiar with and intergration by parts is not on the course, is there another way with only linear substitution, substitution by "u" or partial fractions?
 
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There are a few different ways, you could use the + (a - a) method, by-parts and substitution. But at some point in all of them you are either going to have to make a trigonometric substitution or put it into standard form (which is also basically using a trig substitution but without the effort of workings). Quite simply because the anti derivative has inverse sine in it.
 

1. What is the concept of antiderivative in calculus?

The antiderivative is a fundamental concept in calculus that represents the inverse operation of differentiation. It is essentially the process of finding a function that, when differentiated, gives the original function.

2. How do I solve x^2 (9-(x^2))^(1/2)?

To solve this expression, you first need to rewrite it as a product of two functions, one of which can be integrated easily. In this case, you can rewrite it as x^2 * (9-x^2)^1/2. Then, you can use the power rule for integration to solve it.

3. What is the power rule for integration?

The power rule for integration states that the integral of x^n is equal to (1/(n+1)) * x^(n+1), where n is any real number except for -1. This rule is useful for finding the antiderivative of polynomials.

4. Can I use the power rule for integration for any function?

No, the power rule for integration only applies to functions that can be written as a polynomial or a product of a polynomial and a constant. For other functions, you may need to use other integration techniques such as substitution or integration by parts.

5. What is the importance of finding antiderivatives?

Finding antiderivatives is important in calculus as it allows us to solve problems involving the accumulation of quantities over time or distance. It is also a crucial step in finding definite integrals, which are used to solve a variety of real-world problems in fields such as physics, economics, and engineering.

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