Field vs Potential: E=-curl of V

In summary, the electric field is a vector field that is dependent upon the spatial coordinates. The magnitude of a vector component can be dependent upon the other spatial coordinates.
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if E=-curl of V, E is vector quantity(3 components) & V is scalar quantity (1 component) then how can one function possibly contain all the information that 3 independent function carry?
 
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You have your operators mixed up. Curl only operates on other vectors and produces a vector. The relationship between the electric field and electric potential is through the gradient operator. The gradient operator acts on a scalar and produces a vector. Imagine a topographical map. A topographical map is a 2D plane that maps the vertical height of the landscape. The vertical height is shown by lines of iso-height (yeah, that's the wrong word but I mean lines that show a continuous line of constant height). The gradient operator, acting on the height, would produce vectors that are normal to these lines of iso-height, they point in the direction of greatest change in the scalar as a function of the coordinate axes.

So if our scalar is dependent upon three variables, say the three spatial coordinates, then the gradient would produce a vector that points in the direction of greatest change in the coordinate space.
 
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astro2cosmos said:
if E=-curl of V, E is vector quantity(3 components) & V is scalar quantity (1 component) then how can one function possibly contain all the information that 3 independent function carry?
The first thing to point out is that a scalar isn't simply a one-dimensional vector, so it itsn't really correct to say a scalar has one component. Secondly, the curl operator on acts on vector fields. Finally, it is very easy for a scalar field to contain all the information necessary to generate a vector field. For example, the gradient of a scalar field is defined as,

[tex]\nabla V\left(x,y,z\right) = \left(\frac{\partial V}{\partial x},\;\frac{\partial V}{\partial y},\; \frac{\partial V}{\partial z}\right)[/tex]

Hence, the gradient of a scalar field results in a vector which represents how fast the scalar field V is changing in the directions parallel to the three axes.

Do you see?

Edit: I see that I was beaten to it.
 
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Hootenanny said:
The first thing to point out is that a scalar isn't simply a one-dimensional vector, so it itsn't really correct to say a scalar has one component. Secondly, the curl operator on acts on vector fields. Finally, it is very easy for a scalar field to contain all the information necessary to generate a vector field. For example, the gradient of a scalar field is defined as,

[tex]\nabla V\left(x,y,z\right) = \left(\frac{\partial V}{\partial x},\;\frac{\partial V}{\partial y},\; \frac{\partial V}{\partial z}\right)[/tex]

Hence, the gradient of a scalar field results in a vector which represents how fast the scalar field V is changing in the directions parallel to the three axes.

Do you see?

Edit: I see that I was beaten to it.

yes you may right, but is it right to say that the 3 components of electric field are independent??
 
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astro2cosmos said:
but is it right to say that the 3 components of electric field are independent??
In what sense? What equation are you using to determine the electric field?
 
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Independent in what way? As vector components they are orthogonally independent. As functions, the magnitude of a vector component can be dependent upon the other spatial coordinates. That is, the x-component of the electric field can still be dependent or indepedent of the x, y, and/or z coordinates.

EDIT: Curses! Hootenanny wins this round.
 

1. What is the difference between field and potential in E=-curl of V?

In this equation, the field refers to the electric field, which is a vector quantity that describes the direction and magnitude of the force that a charged particle experiences. The potential refers to the electric potential, which is a scalar quantity that describes the amount of potential energy per unit charge at a given point in space.

2. How are field and potential related in E=-curl of V?

In this equation, the electric field is related to the electric potential through the curl operator, which is a mathematical operation that describes how a vector field changes in space. The electric field can be found by taking the negative curl of the electric potential.

3. What is the physical significance of E=-curl of V?

E=-curl of V is a fundamental equation in electromagnetism that describes the relationship between the electric field and electric potential. It is used to calculate the electric field in a given region of space, which is important for understanding the behavior of charged particles and the flow of electricity.

4. Can E=-curl of V be applied to other types of fields?

Yes, E=-curl of V can be applied to other types of fields, not just electric fields. This equation is a general form of the Maxwell-Faraday equation, which is one of the four Maxwell's equations that govern the behavior of electric and magnetic fields in space. It can be used to calculate the magnetic field from the magnetic potential as well.

5. How is E=-curl of V used in practical applications?

E=-curl of V is used in a variety of practical applications, such as in electrical engineering, telecommunications, and physics research. It is essential for understanding and designing electrical circuits and devices, as well as for studying electromagnetic phenomena and developing new technologies.

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