Understanding Separation of Variables in Derivatives and Integrals

In summary, the symbols dy/dx and dx in derivatives represent the differences in y and x values between two points, with dx representing the limit as x_1 approaches x. In integrals, dx represents the limit as the number of slices approaches infinity, with each slice having a width of dx. This allows us to calculate the area under a function accurately.
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I do not understand the process of separating variables such as in derivatives. I thought that dy/dx is just the rate of change of y with respect to the independent variable x. Why can you physically move dx (like multiply it on both sides)?? What would "dy" be reffered to as then? Simply the change in y? I also to not get why dx, dy, dt, etc. are used in integrals when it is just (with respect to). They seem to be variables now instead of simply definitions. Please help me understand why we can separate variables and just everything related to it in general. (I'm only in High School btw, so please don't use abstruse terms or concepts) Thanks.
 
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dy is called the differential. It is defined to be equal to the expression [itex] f'(x) dx[/itex]. This leads to the conclusion that the derivative is the quotient of two differentials, though this is no special result but merely a tautology: it is just a verbal restatement of the definition of the derivative.

The easiest way to think of this is as thus: For derivatives, we choose two sets of unknown values of a function. Representing them as co-ordinates, [itex](x, f(x) ), (x_1, f(x_1))[/itex]. The difference between the two y values is just [itex] f(x_1) - f(x)[/itex], and for the x values, [itex] x_1 - x[/itex].

We often shorten that expression with the upper case delta, denoting "change in". So we can write the differences in the y and x values between the two points as [itex]\Delta y[/itex] and [itex]\Delta x[/itex].

Now, we can take the limiting process of letting x_1 become arbitrarily close to x. That is the same as letting x_1 - x approach 0, or [itex] \Delta x \to 0[/itex]. The same is done for y.

However, it comes up so often in calculus that we need to take this limit, writing [itex] \lim_{x_1 \to x} x_1 - x[/itex] that we have shortened this to the symbol dx. This is in agreement with the derivative being df/dx, as by the definition of our symbols df and dx, we get;

[tex]\frac{dy}{dx} = \lim_{x_1 \to x} \lim_{f(x_1) \to f(x)} \frac{ f(x_1) - f(x)}{x_1 - x}[/tex]. We can omit one of the limit operators - the fact that we are assuming the derivative exists means we are also assuming continuity. Since f is continuous, the statement x_1 approaches x implies that f(x_1) approaches f(x). They are the same statement. Hence we have the same, normal definition.

For integrals, it has exactly the same meaning. The Riemann definition of the integral defines the set of symbols [itex]\int^b_a f(x) dx[/itex] to mean [itex]\lim_{n\to \infty} \sum_{v=0}^{n} f(t_v) ( x_v - x_{v-1} ) [/itex], where the interval of integration, a= x_0, b= x_v, and t_v is some value satisfying [itex] x_v \leq t_v \leq x_{v-1}[/itex].

Now, a nice geometric way to interpret this definition of the integral is as such;
We graph the function f(x) over the closed interval [a,b]. Between these points, we construct (n-1) ordinates, basically divided the region into n slices. These slices need not be equal width. Each slice now has the general sub-interval, [x_p, x_(p+1)], p is some number between (inclusive) 1 and n-1. Then we have in the summation f(t_v). t_p is any value in the general closed sub-interval i just mentioned.

So for each product in the summation, ie f(t_1) ( x_1 - x_0), we interpret as a rectangle with height f(t_1) and width ( x_1 - x_0). So now the summation part of our definition is reduced to the sum of n rectangles, which give the area under the function quite well, but with some error. Taking limits as n goes to infinity, there error goes to zero, whilst the interval [a,b] remains the same 'length' implies that x_v - x_(v-1) goes to zero. But from our earlier definition, that means we can put in the symbol dx for that. Thats why the dx appears in integrals, alone.
 
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Related to Understanding Separation of Variables in Derivatives and Integrals

1. What is separation of variables?

Separation of variables is a mathematical technique used to solve partial differential equations by separating the variables in the equation into simpler, independent equations.

2. How does separation of variables work?

In separation of variables, the partial differential equation is rewritten as a product of functions of individual variables. These functions are then solved separately, and the solutions are combined to obtain the final solution to the original equation.

3. What types of equations can be solved using separation of variables?

Separation of variables is typically used to solve linear partial differential equations with constant coefficients, but it can also be used for some non-linear equations and systems of equations.

4. What are the advantages of using separation of variables?

One advantage of separation of variables is that it can provide analytical solutions to partial differential equations, which can be useful for understanding the behavior of a system. It can also simplify the solution process, making it easier to solve complex equations.

5. Are there any limitations to using separation of variables?

One limitation of separation of variables is that it can only be used for equations with certain properties, such as linearity and constant coefficients. It may also not be applicable for all types of boundary conditions. In some cases, it may not be possible to separate the variables in an equation, making this technique ineffective.

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