What is the Speed of Sound in Air?

In summary, the conversation is about a hiker trying to determine the speed of sound by shouting towards a cliff and measuring the echo. They initially calculate the velocity using the distance and time, but the book gives a different formula. The confusion is resolved by understanding that the sound has to travel both to and from the cliff, and the correct formula is half of the initial one. The conversation also includes a discussion about how a ball and sound both travel the same distance when thrown and echoed back. The conversation ends with a reminder to check for potential keyboard issues and avoid using unnecessary abbreviations.
  • #1
oceanflavored22
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i'm doing extra problems in my textbook but one of them baffles me...

a hiker shouts toward a vertical cliff 685 m away. the echo is heard 4 s later
what is the speed of sound of the hiker's voice in air?

i know to calculate this you do velocity=distance/time.
and i did velocity=685/4 and got 171.

but in the answers, the book says that you have to do velocity=685/2

i don't know how they got 2 s, when the question clearly states it's 4.
is it just a typo? or do you have to halve the time when it's air?

thanks for anyone who can help me with this conundum :tongue:
 
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  • #2
It's an echo!

Any cogs whirring...? Think about where the sound has to travel.

(I remember puzzling over exactly the same question when I was at school!)
 
  • #3
my cogs are rusty.

uhhhhmmmmmm...no.
i don't think my physics teacher ever mentioned echos.
could you explain this to me?
thanks so much. 'preciate it. alottttt. :approve:
 
  • #4
if you are 10m from a wall and you throw a ball at it, then catch it, how many meters has the ball travelled?
 
  • #5
in fear of sounding stupid...

none? because the ball travels 10 m to the wall, but then comes back 10 m. ok...so i think i get of get what brewnog was saying about the echos. thanks :smile:
 
  • #6
it travels 10m to the wall, and 10m back. therefore 20m travelled.

same thing with the sound. travels 685m there, and 658m back.

685+685=1370m.
1370m/4s = 685m/2s.
get it?
 
  • #7
Hey Ocean...u got ur ans in ur question.
As u knw v=2d/t
v=2X685/4
Therefore ur text gave tht V=685/2
That is the right ans.
 
  • #8
AkashBhatt said:
Hey Ocean...u got ur ans in ur question.
As u knw v=2d/t
v=2X685/4
Therefore ur text gave tht V=685/2
That is the right ans.

You seem to have some intermittent keys on your keyboard. Better get it checked out.
 
  • #9
What does that mean?
Please do reply...
 
  • #10
AkashBhatt said:
What does that mean?
Please do reply...

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/intermittent"

I think he's refferring to the lacking letters of your answer... :yuck: we always prefer to guess the best, so we think you pressed the keys and they didn't respond rather than that you didn't touch them at all.

Refer to the posting guidelines for more info, you seem to have overlooked one point I think is mentioned there: Don't use uneccessary abbreviations...
 
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Oh...I am really sorry for that i will take care next time...
thank you!
 

What is the speed of sound in air?

The speed of sound in air is approximately 343 meters per second (m/s) at sea level and room temperature (20°C).

How does the temperature affect the speed of sound in air?

The speed of sound in air is directly proportional to the temperature. As the temperature increases, the speed of sound also increases. This is because the molecules in warmer air are moving faster, allowing sound waves to travel faster.

Why is the speed of sound slower at higher altitudes?

The speed of sound is slower at higher altitudes because the air is less dense. This means that there are fewer air molecules to transmit the sound waves, resulting in a slower speed.

What factors can affect the speed of sound in air?

Aside from temperature and altitude, the speed of sound in air can also be affected by humidity, atmospheric pressure, and the composition of the air (such as the presence of other gases).

How is the speed of sound in air measured?

The speed of sound in air can be measured using various methods, such as the time-of-flight method, the resonance method, and the interferometry method. These methods involve measuring the time it takes for a sound wave to travel a known distance, or using sound waves to interfere with each other to determine the speed.

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