Tension on a rope with significant mass

In summary, the conversation discusses a problem involving a rope with mass m, tension at its ends (T1 and T2), and an acceleration to the right. The task is to find the acceleration of a section of the rope with mass m in terms of T1, T2, and constants such as g. The suggested solution includes the forces of tension and gravity, but the weight is not a factor in the horizontal acceleration equation.
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Homework Statement



Consider a rope that, unlike those usually studied in mechanics problems, actually has a significant mass "m". The tension at the right end of this rope is T2 and that at the left end is T1. (figure1.0) The rope has an acceleration a_rope to the right.

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Complete the following equation for the acceleration of the section of the rope of mass m, taking the positive direction to be to the right.

F_rope = m*a_rope = ?

Give your answer in terms of T_1, T_2, and constants such as g.

The Attempt at a Solution



I'm thinking that the Force on the rope will be an addition between the tension difference that leads to the acceleration, and the force of gravity pulling it down.

So m*a_rope = (T_2 - T_1) + mg

However, since the answer can't include m, I'm kind of lost as to where to go from here. I might just be overlooking something simple, but some insight would be really helpful

Thanks!
 
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You are writing the equation for horizontal acceleration. The weight is not along the horizontal.
At least not here...
 
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I would like to clarify that the equation provided in the problem, F_rope = m*a_rope, is already in terms of the mass of the rope (m). This means that the answer should not include m, and instead should be in terms of other variables such as T_1, T_2, and constants like g.

To find the acceleration of the rope, we can use Newton's second law, which states that the net force acting on an object is equal to the product of its mass and acceleration. In this case, the net force is the sum of the tension forces acting on the rope and the force of gravity pulling it down.

So, the equation would be:

m*a_rope = T_2 + (-T_1) + mg

Note that the tension at the left end of the rope is in the opposite direction, so it is represented as a negative force.

Now, we can rearrange this equation to solve for a_rope:

a_rope = (T_2 - T_1)/m + g

This is the final equation in terms of the given variables and constants. I hope this helps clarify the solution.
 

What is tension on a rope with significant mass?

Tension on a rope with significant mass refers to the force that is exerted on a rope when it is supporting a heavy object or experiencing significant resistance.

How is tension calculated on a rope with significant mass?

Tension can be calculated by using the equation T=mg, where T is the tension, m is the mass of the object, and g is the acceleration due to gravity (9.8 m/s²).

What factors affect the tension on a rope with significant mass?

The tension on a rope with significant mass can be affected by the weight of the object being supported, the length and thickness of the rope, and the angle at which the rope is pulled.

What happens to the tension on a rope with significant mass if the object is lifted or lowered?

If the object is lifted, the tension on the rope will increase. If the object is lowered, the tension will decrease. This is because the weight of the object is directly related to the tension on the rope.

Can tension on a rope with significant mass ever be greater than the weight of the object?

Yes, tension on a rope with significant mass can be greater than the weight of the object. This can happen if the rope is being pulled at a steep angle or if there is significant resistance on the rope.

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