is this normal for a first calculus based physics course


by madah12
Tags: based, calculus, normal, physics
madah12
madah12 is offline
#1
Sep29-10, 11:38 AM
P: 332
my course uses university physics with modern physics but it only goes through chapter 1 -10 and if time permits 13
they are:

1 Units, Physical Quantities, and Vectors
2 Motion Along a Straight Line
3 Motion in Two or Three Dimensions
4 Newton's Laws of Motion
5 Applying Newton's Laws
6 Work and Kinetic Energy
7 Potential Energy and Energy Conservation
8 Momentum, Impulse, and Collisions
9 Rotation of Rigid Bodies
10 Dynamics of Rotational Motion
13 Periodic Motion
It doesn't cover thermodynamics or fluid mechanics. So I am wondering are they considered essential or optional topics of first physics course?
Phys.Org News Partner Science news on Phys.org
Cougars' diverse diet helped them survive the Pleistocene mass extinction
Cyber risks can cause disruption on scale of 2008 crisis, study says
Mantis shrimp stronger than airplanes
jtbell
jtbell is offline
#2
Sep29-10, 11:39 AM
Mentor
jtbell's Avatar
P: 11,254
Do they cover the "missing" topics in the second semester? We do thermo at the beginning of second semester.
fss
fss is offline
#3
Sep29-10, 11:43 AM
P: 1,185
For a semester course that seems pretty normal.

madah12
madah12 is offline
#4
Sep29-10, 12:12 PM
P: 332

is this normal for a first calculus based physics course


first of all since I am not sure that the length of the course here is the same as the length internationally 1 course is usually only 3.5 months because we have a lot of vacations also in the second course phy 102 they cover http://physics.kuniv.edu.kw/Courses/phys102.pdf
here the summer vacation is long (about 3.5 months)
Quantumjump
Quantumjump is offline
#5
Sep29-10, 12:14 PM
P: 35
Quote Quote by madah12 View Post
my course uses university physics with modern physics but it only goes through chapter 1 -10 and if time permits 13
they are:

1 Units, Physical Quantities, and Vectors
2 Motion Along a Straight Line
3 Motion in Two or Three Dimensions
4 Newton's Laws of Motion
5 Applying Newton's Laws
6 Work and Kinetic Energy
7 Potential Energy and Energy Conservation
8 Momentum, Impulse, and Collisions
9 Rotation of Rigid Bodies
10 Dynamics of Rotational Motion
13 Periodic Motion
It doesn't cover thermodynamics or fluid mechanics. So I am wondering are they considered essential or optional topics of first physics course?

In my country where I did my undergrad (a French Uni) the topics you mention are part of a first semester university physics, but part only, as we covered also thermodynamics and fluid mechanics and some other topics as well. The second semester was focused on electromagnetism, wave theory (an indepth coverage extending the periodic motion chapter of the mechanics first-semester course) and introductory modern physics, including an informal first approach of quantum mechanics.

Thermodynamics and fluid mechanics are important because , thermdynamics can be seen as an interesting approach of systems of particles in general, while fluid mechanics gives a way to enter into the world of tensors in more advanced course in the second year. The concept of flui in physics is quite important as it plays a role in various branches (the model of perfect fluid in general relativity, or the tools it provides to study fields, and i dont even mention non-linear dynamics and chaos theory) so an introduction to fluid mechanics, even at an elementary level, is certainly not a waste.
Ryker
Ryker is offline
#6
Sep29-10, 12:16 PM
P: 1,089
We use the same book in the course, called Newtonian Mechanics and Relativity (first Physics course, first semester), and we're going to be doing chapters 1 - 12, 37 and some concepts from 44 (but that's just because the professor is a particle physicist ). Next semester we have Fluids and Waves, but I don't really know what topics we'll cover.
Quote Quote by Quantumjump View Post
In my country where I did my undergrad (a French Uni) the topics you mention are part of a first semester university physics, but part only, as we covered also thermodynamics and fluid mechanics and some other topics as well. The second semester was focused on electromagnetism, wave theory (an indepth coverage extending the periodic motion chapter of the mechanics first-semester course) and introductory modern physics, including an informal first approach of quantum mechanics.
Yeah, I think everywhere but in the US and Canada you cover more stuff than that, so it's hard to compare.
madah12
madah12 is offline
#7
Sep29-10, 12:20 PM
P: 332
Quote Quote by Quantumjump View Post
In my country where I did my undergrad (a French Uni) the topics you mention are part of a first semester university physics, but part only, as we covered also thermodynamics and fluid mechanics and some other topics as well. The second semester was focused on electromagnetism, wave theory (an indepth coverage extending the periodic motion chapter of the mechanics first-semester course) and introductory modern physics, including an informal first approach of quantum mechanics.
yes I know other foreign friends who used the book with fluid mechanics and thermodynamics so I started my topic.Even though I am in engineering major I am looking for good physics education.
Quantumjump
Quantumjump is offline
#8
Sep29-10, 01:51 PM
P: 35
In fact the first physics calculus-based course we had was Douglas Giancoli's Physics books (the three books), in case you know. I really liked it.


Register to reply

Related Discussions
Calculus-Based Physics A Free Physics Textbook by Jeffrey W. Schnick Science & Math Textbook Listings 14
Calculus Based Physics course Educators & Teaching 10
algebra based -> calculus based physics Academic Guidance 13
calculus based physics Vs. algebra based physics Academic Guidance 32
calculus based physics course Academic Guidance 1