Anyone heard of the "solar snake" Solar system theory?


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Feb1-12, 04:25 PM
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hello this is my first post and i am far from being a physicist or an astronomy major so please bear with me

A friend sent me this link

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this man named Dr. Bhat wrote a book explaining how the solar system is not on a flat plane but shaped like a cone with the sun at its apex, he claims the ancients knew this was true, he also claims that it can be proven that the earth does not orbit the sun and this can be proven by

observing the sun at 12 noon on the summer solstice it lies in a certian constellation ( i dont remember which)

then observe the sun on 12 noon of the winter solstice and it should lie in a constellation that is directly opposite the to the other constellation, if the earth orbits the sun----but he claims it does not and thus proves that the earth does not rotate around the sun

he also claims it can be proven by watching the angles of the rings on saturn at different times of the year---but that explanation was over my head

he calls it the helical helix or twin vortex theory

Reading this link blew my mind, thinking it might be true

So i figured i would ask some smart folks if this was total quackery

What say you?

Thanks for any and all responses
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Feb1-12, 04:44 PM
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esj001, Welcome to Physics Forums! This is a place with real scientists, engineers, and many experienced people, all willing to assist you to learn.

As for your link to Dr. Bhat, I visited there. My response it to send you these:

Here is a “Baloney Detector” by Michael Shermer. It has ten questions to help you discover crackpot theories: http://homepages.wmich.edu/~korista/baloney.html

Here is another list of questions to ask to help determine the validity when presented with a new “theory” from Carl Sagan:
http://www.carlsagan.com/index_ideascontent.htm
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Feb1-12, 05:13 PM
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thank you for the links Bobbywhy

this man is definately guilty of almost all of these things--especially number 3 on the first link (no seems to have verified this mans claims except him and his circle i suppose)

It sounded very far fetched and could be tested very easy but in my ignorance of astromomy and my willingness to believe conspiracies---- i had to ask

im sure any first year astronomy student could tell me this is false because the sun at noon on the summer solstice lies in "constellation A" and noon on winter solstice lies in "constellation B" which is direct opposite proving this guy wrong

is he at least right in saying that this belief was held by some ancient people that didnt know better?

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Anyone heard of the "solar snake" Solar system theory?


Good call esj.

And now that you're convinced he's a crackpot, we can prevent this thread from garnering any more negative attention. PF rules forbid links to crackpottery.
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Feb1-12, 05:37 PM
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The heliocentric model of the solar system has been exhaustively proven to be true. To suggest in the 21st century that it is cone shaped or helical (and that modern equipment deceives us but bronze aged tribes knew better) is pure crazy
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Feb1-12, 08:45 PM
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Thanks all-----sorry about the link to a crackpots "theory"----i didn't read the rules---when i have a much tougher problem to figure out i will come here again----thread over i guess
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Feb2-12, 08:50 AM
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Quote Quote by esj001 View Post
he also claims that it can be proven that the earth does not orbit the sun and this can be proven by [. . .]
The National Aeronautics & Space Administration (NASA) - Solar System Exploration notes this:

1.
1543: Nicolaus Copernicus publishes, On the Revolutions of the Celestial Spheres describing his heliocentric (sun-centered) model of the solar system.

1610: First observations of sunspots through a telescope by Galileo Galilei and Thomas Harriot. Galileo's observations of Jupiter confirm our solar system is sun-centered.
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/...y=OverviewLong
2.
Ancient astronomers believed that the Earth was the center of the Universe, and that the sun and all the other stars revolved around the Earth. Copernicus proved that Earth and the other planets in our solar system orbit our sun.
http://solarsystem.nasa.gov/planets/...y=OverviewLong
You might like to learn more about our solar system by exploring the links
(urls). Best wishes to you.


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