2d Coulomb and Biot-Savart laws

In summary, in order to derive the laws in 2d, one can use the integral expressions of the Maxwell equations. For Coulomb's law, one can imagine a rod of infinite length along the z-axis with a uniformly divided charge, and use the electrical Gauss' law to find the expression for the electric field. For the Biot-Savart law, the expression for the vector potential in two dimensions is given.
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I'm trying to find some sort of simple derivation of these laws in 2d, using the integral expressions of the Maxwell equations.

For 2d Coulomb, I found this:

Imagine a rod of infinite length along the z-axis, carrying a charge q which is uniformly divided:

rho (the charge/volume) = lambda*dz*delta(x)*delta(y)

with dq= lambda*dz

So, using the electrical Gauss' law, Er being the value of E in radial direction:

eps0*Er*2*pi*r*dz = lambda*dz

Er= lambda/(eps0*2*pi*r)

Er =-dV/dr

=> V= -lambda/(2*eps0)*ln(r)

So, Coulomb's law would be, with pi(r´) being the electrical charge of the surface evaluated in point r´, en ds´ being the surface that is integrated:

V(r) = -lambda/(2*eps0)* int ( ln(r-r´) , ds´) ?

Does that make any sense? Or is this way off the mark?

And for the Biot-Savart law in the same manner, will the vector potential be something analogous to this thing?

Thank you,

W.
 
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Your derivation of Coulomb's law is correct. For the Biot-Savart law, the expression for the vector potential in two dimensions is: A(r) = (1/(4πε0)) * ∫ ( (r-r') x dl' ) / |r-r'|^3
 
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Hello W,

Thank you for your question. It seems like you are on the right track with your derivation of the 2d Coulomb and Biot-Savart laws. However, there are some minor corrections and clarifications that I would like to make.

Firstly, your expression for the electric field (Er) in 2d Coulomb's law should be Er = lambda/(2*eps0*pi*r) instead of Er = lambda/(eps0*2*pi*r). This is because in 2d, the surface area of a circle is 2*pi*r instead of 4*pi*r^2 in 3d.

Secondly, the expression for the potential (V) in 2d Coulomb's law should be V = -lambda/(2*eps0)*ln(r) instead of V = -lambda/(2*eps0)*ln(r-r'). This is because in 2d, the electric potential is only dependent on the distance (r) from the charge, and not on the position (r') of the charge.

In terms of the Biot-Savart law, the vector potential (A) in 2d is given by A = (mu0/(4*pi))*int((J(r')/r')*ds') where J(r') is the current density, r' is the position vector of the current element, and ds' is the surface element integrated over. This is analogous to your expression for the potential in 2d Coulomb's law, but with the addition of the current density term.

I hope this helps clarify your derivation. Good luck with your studies!
 

Related to 2d Coulomb and Biot-Savart laws

1. What is the 2D Coulomb law?

The 2D Coulomb law is a mathematical equation that describes the force between two charged particles in a two-dimensional space. It is based on the principle that like charges repel each other while opposite charges attract each other.

2. How is the 2D Coulomb law different from the 3D Coulomb law?

The 2D Coulomb law only considers the electric charges and distances in a two-dimensional plane, while the 3D Coulomb law takes into account the charges and distances in three-dimensional space. This means that the force calculated using the 2D Coulomb law may differ from the force calculated using the 3D Coulomb law for the same set of charges and distances.

3. What is the Biot-Savart law?

The Biot-Savart law is a mathematical equation that describes the magnetic field created by a steady electric current in a given space. It states that the magnetic field at a point is directly proportional to the current and inversely proportional to the distance from the current.

4. Can the Biot-Savart law be applied in a two-dimensional space?

Yes, the Biot-Savart law can be applied in a two-dimensional space as long as the current and the distance are also in two dimensions. However, the resulting magnetic field may differ from the one calculated using the 3D Biot-Savart law, similar to the difference between the 2D and 3D Coulomb laws.

5. What are the applications of the 2D Coulomb and Biot-Savart laws?

The 2D Coulomb and Biot-Savart laws have various practical applications in physics and engineering, such as in the design of electric motors and generators, calculation of magnetic fields in two-dimensional circuits, and understanding the behavior of charged particles in a two-dimensional space.

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