A derivative identity (Zangwill)

In summary, the conversation discusses the process of solving a homework problem involving the divergence of a cross product without using vector identities. The attempt at a solution involves manipulating the Levi-Civita symbols and using the Kronecker delta to simplify the expression. The validity of this step is questioned, and it is suggested to use a vector calculus identity to prove it. The possibility of a solution manual being available online is also mentioned.
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Homework Statement


Without using vector identities, show that ##\nabla \cdot [\vec{A}(r) \times \vec{r}] = 0##.

Homework Equations


The definitions and elementary properties of the dot and cross products in terms of Levi-Civita symbols. The "standard" calculus III identities for the divergence and curl are not allowed.

The Attempt at a Solution


$$
\begin{align*}
\nabla \cdot(\vec{A}\times \vec{r}) &= \epsilon_{ijk}\partial_i(A_jr_k)\\
&= \epsilon_{ijk}r_k\partial_iA_j + \epsilon_{ijk}A_j\partial_ir_k\\
&= \epsilon_{ijk}r_k\partial_iA_j + \epsilon_{ijk}A_j\delta_{ik}
\end{align*}$$

The ##\epsilon_{ijk}A_j\delta_{ik}## term disappears because ##\delta_{ik}\epsilon_{ijk}=0## and the ##\epsilon_{ijk}r_k\partial_iA_j## term disappears because ##\epsilon_{ijk}r_k\partial_iA_j = \epsilon_{ijk}\delta_{ik}r_i\partial_iA_j = 0## for the same reason. Therefore ##\nabla \cdot [\vec{A}(r) \times \vec{r}] = 0##.

Is the use of the Kronecker delta in the final step valid?
 
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jack476 said:

Homework Statement


Without using vector identities, show that ##\nabla \cdot [\vec{A}(r) \times \vec{r}] = 0##.

Homework Equations


The definitions and elementary properties of the dot and cross products in terms of Levi-Civita symbols. The "standard" calculus III identities for the divergence and curl are not allowed.

The Attempt at a Solution


$$
\begin{align*}
\nabla \cdot(\vec{A}\times \vec{r}) &= \epsilon_{ijk}\partial_i(A_jr_k)\\
&= \epsilon_{ijk}r_k\partial_iA_j + \epsilon_{ijk}A_j\partial_ir_k\\
&= \epsilon_{ijk}r_k\partial_iA_j + \epsilon_{ijk}A_j\delta_{ik}
\end{align*}$$

The ##\epsilon_{ijk}A_j\delta_{ik}## term disappears because ##\delta_{ik}\epsilon_{ijk}=0## and the ##\epsilon_{ijk}r_k\partial_iA_j## term disappears because ##\epsilon_{ijk}r_k\partial_iA_j = \epsilon_{ijk}\delta_{ik}r_i\partial_iA_j = 0## for the same reason. Therefore ##\nabla \cdot [\vec{A}(r) \times \vec{r}] = 0##.

Is the use of the Kronecker delta in the final step valid?

Are you sure it does not depend on the form of ##\vec{A}(r)?## If that is the case, can you prove it?
 
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Lets cheat a bit and use the vector calculus identity ##\nabla \cdot (A\times B)=(\nabla \times A)\cdot B - A\cdot(\nabla\times B)## then it seems we can prove it but we need that ##\nabla\times A=\vec{0}##. Is this fact about the curl of A given as additional assumption which you omitted to write here?
 
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You know there's a solution manual in the internet, right?
 

What is a derivative identity?

A derivative identity, also known as a Zangwill identity, is a mathematical equation that relates the derivatives of two or more functions to each other. It is used in calculus and differential equations to simplify and solve problems involving derivatives.

What are the properties of a derivative identity?

There are several properties of a derivative identity, including the product rule, quotient rule, chain rule, and power rule. These rules allow for the differentiation of more complex functions by breaking them down into simpler parts.

How is a derivative identity used in real-world applications?

Derivative identities are used in many fields, including physics, engineering, economics, and finance. In physics, they are used to model the rate of change of physical quantities. In economics and finance, they are used to calculate rates of return and predict future trends.

What are some common mistakes when using a derivative identity?

One common mistake when using a derivative identity is forgetting to apply the chain rule when differentiating composite functions. Another mistake is using the wrong rule, such as using the product rule instead of the quotient rule. It is important to carefully follow the rules and double-check the calculations to avoid errors.

How can I improve my understanding and application of derivative identities?

To improve your understanding and application of derivative identities, it is important to practice solving problems and working through examples. It can also be helpful to review the properties and rules of derivative identities and to seek help from a tutor or teacher if needed.

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