Basic Calculus: Solving for x in sinx(lnx)=0 over [0, 2pi]

In summary, the conversation is about finding the value of x when sinx(lnx)=0 over the interval [0, 2pi]. The attempted solution involves moving sinx to the other side to get lnx=0, but this is incorrect as sinx is an operator. The correct approach is to consider what values of x would make sinx=0, and then set the argument of the sin to those values. This results in 3 solutions, but one of them is not in the domain of the ln function.
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Homework Statement



If sinx(lnx)=0 over [0, 2pi] then x=_____



The Attempt at a Solution



My attempt was to move sin over to the other side to get lnx= 0/sinx and then get lnx=0, making x=1. But is it incorrect to just move sinx over to the other side, because if i move lnx over to the other side, i would get x=0. Can you please explain to me what I am doing wrong here?
 
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Well, if those are factors; Sin(x) and ln(x). Then there are 4 solutions. You found ln(1)=0 then you just need to find those values that makes Sin(x)=0, one of the solutions are not legit since they are not defined by ln(x)

The question has nothing to do with calculus though :P
 
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how do you know there are 4 solutions?
and yes, this is just our summer review to go into calc. lol
 
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Then you should have posted this in the Precalculus subforum instead. :-p

There are 3 solutions because,
there is 1 solution in [0, 2π] where ln x = 0, and
there are 2 solutions in [0, 2π] where sin x = 0 (a 3rd is not in the domain of the ln x function).
 
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eumyang said:
Then you should have posted this in the Precalculus subforum instead. :-p

There are 4 solutions because,
there is 1 solution in [0, 2π] where ln x = 0, and
there are 3 solutions in [0, 2π] where sin x = 0.
I get 3 solutions. One of the 3 solutions in [0, 2π] for which sin x = 0 is not in the domain of the ln function.
 
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You can't really just move the sine over like that. Sin is an operator! What you need to do is consider what would make sin(something) = 0. (consult your unit circle). Once you have those 2 solutions, set the argument of the sin to that.
ln(x) = solution 1
ln(x) = solution 2
etc.
 
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name_ask17 said:
If sinx(lnx)=0 over [0, 2pi] then x=_____

QuarkCharmer said:
You can't really just move the sine over like that. Sin is an operator! What you need to do is consider what would make sin(something) = 0. (consult your unit circle). Once you have those 2 solutions, set the argument of the sin to that.
ln(x) = solution 1
ln(x) = solution 2
etc.
QuarkCharmer, you're misreading the problem, which is understandable due to the way the OP wrote the problem. Howebver, the expression on the left is a product, not a composition. It's sin(x) * ln(x), not sin(ln(x)).
 
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My mistake, feel free to delete my post(s)
 
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Mark44 said:
One of the 3 solutions in [0, 2π] for which sin x = 0 is not in the domain of the ln function.
Ack, that's what I get for blinding following someone else's post. :redface: Post corrected.
 

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