Change (9-16cos theta) ^1.5 into another form

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Mod note: Based on an attachment in a later post in this thread, the actual expression is
##(9 - 16\cos^2(\theta))^{3/2}##

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: https://www.physicsforums.com/posts/5610105/

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my working is (9^1.5) - (16^1.5)[ (cos theta)^1.5 ] = 18-64[ (cos theta)^1.5 ] , is it correct ?
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chetzread said:
my working is (9^1.5) - (16^1.5)[ (cos theta)^1.5 ] = 18-64[ (cos theta)^1.5 ] , is it correct ?
Try setting ##\theta = \pi/3## in ( 9-16cos theta) ^1.5 and (9^1.5) - (16^1.5)[ (cos theta)^1.5 ]. Do you get the same value?
 
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DrClaude said:
Try setting ##\theta = \pi/3## in ( 9-16cos theta) ^1.5 and (9^1.5) - (16^1.5)[ (cos theta)^1.5 ]. Do you get the same value?
No, how should it be?
 
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What is ##(a+b)^c##?
 
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DrClaude said:
What is ##(a+b)^c##?
Dun know , can you help ?
 
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DrClaude said:
What is ##(a+b)^c##?
here's my actual problem , i want to integrate $$\int_{0.23\pi}^{0.5\pi} \ (9-16cos\theta)^{1.5}\ d\theta$$
Mod note: From the attachment, now shown inline, the above should actually be
##\int_{0.23\pi}^{0.5\pi} \ (9-16cos^2\theta)^{1.5}\ d\theta##

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Is there any other way to integrate this without expanding the terms ?
 
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chetzread said:
here's my actual problem , i want to integrate $$\int_{0.23\pi}^{0.5\pi} \ (9-16cos\theta)^{1.5}\ d\theta$$Is there any other way to integrate this without expanding the terms ?

The answer will be a complex number, because ##9 - 16 \cos \theta< 0## over part of the integration region, so when you take its 3/2-power you get an imaginary number. Besides that, your integration is not "elementary": according to Maple, the indefinite integral of ##(a - b \cos\theta)^{3/2}## involves the so-called Elliptic functions.
 
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@chetzread,
This is what you said:
chetzread said:
here's my actual problem , i want to integrate $$\int_{0.23\pi}^{0.5\pi} \ (9-16cos\theta)^{1.5}\ d\theta$$
The attachment you posted later in this thread shows that the integral is really this: ##\int_{0.23\pi}^{0.5\pi} \ (9-16cos^2\theta)^{1.5}\ d\theta##

Because of sloppiness on your part, you wasted a fair amount of time of the people trying to help you. Please start a new thread.
 

1. What is the purpose of changing the expression (9-16cos theta)^1.5 into another form?

The purpose of changing an expression into another form is to simplify it or make it easier to work with in a particular situation. In some cases, certain forms may also reveal patterns or relationships that are not apparent in the original form.

2. How can (9-16cos theta)^1.5 be simplified?

(9-16cos theta)^1.5 can be simplified by using the trigonometric identity cos^2 theta + sin^2 theta = 1 to rewrite it as (9-16cos theta)^1.5 = (9-16cos theta)(cos^2 theta + sin^2 theta)^0.75. This can then be further simplified using the binomial expansion formula to get 9cos^3 theta - 16cos^2 theta + 9cos theta - 16.

3. Can (9-16cos theta)^1.5 be written in terms of sine instead of cosine?

Yes, it is possible to write (9-16cos theta)^1.5 in terms of sine. By using the trigonometric identity sin^2 theta + cos^2 theta = 1, we can rewrite it as (9-16(1-sin^2 theta))^1.5, which simplifies to (16sin^2 theta - 7)^1.5.

4. How can the expression (9-16cos theta)^1.5 be graphed?

The graph of (9-16cos theta)^1.5 can be obtained by first graphing the function y = x^1.5, and then reflecting it about the x-axis and stretching it vertically by a factor of 16/9. This will result in a graph with a horizontal asymptote at y = 0 and a vertical intercept at x = 1.

5. Are there any other forms in which (9-16cos theta)^1.5 can be written?

Yes, there are other forms in which (9-16cos theta)^1.5 can be written. For example, it can be expanded using the binomial expansion formula to get 9cos^3 theta - 24cos^2 theta + 24cos theta - 8. It can also be written in terms of the tangent function as (9-16cos theta)^1.5 = (9-16cos theta)(1+tan^2 theta)^0.75.

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